Reaz Baksh said:

But is not everything database driven just a text editor interface? What, in my opinior, seperates Airtime from all others is the ease of use and the ability to manage remotely, via a web interface. The biggest advantage is that it is free and still being developed. Having to modify individual text files and individually query an asset for the metadata would take a hugh amount of time.

+1

All I can say is that if you have a good calendar-strategy, it's wonderfull to work with.
Seems like Mr. Ashworth Payne is missing a feature called "Copy Shows" or similar.
Ashworth, you got four options now:
1. leave Airtime behind you
2. go to the bug-tracker dev.sourcefabric.org, vote for appropriate tickets and wait
2. co-develop features with the sourcefabric-community and contribute your efforts
3. donate money

These are just missing features you are talking about.
But if it doesn't suit your needs or you think it's crap, just don't use it.
You said, you spent a lot of money on this project, so you should have a few bucks left for a proprietary application or donating.

Although it's a little more work now (until Copy-Show-Feature) to fill the shows,
Airtime is reliable and our Programm Coordinator and I can sleep like a baby since implemented.

Thanks for the good work, Team & Comm!

But is not everything database driven just a text editor interface? What, in my opinior, seperates Airtime from all others is the ease of use and the ability to manage remotely, via a web interface. The biggest advantage is that it is free and still being developed. Having to modify individual text files and individually query an asset for the metadata would take a hugh amount of time.

@hoerich "Bravo" for yours conclusions :-)

I'm really agree with you

Thank for the Team and Community people :D

@ Micz to some extent I have to agree with Ashworth. I want to be totally in love with Airtime but so far it has been way to much work. Someone else said the same thing on LinkedIn and I furiously defended Airtime, but at that time my station was not fully up and running. Now that it is I see what the commenter meant.

Having to add content for every show daily added to the fact that everyday (like right now) Airtime is failing daily makes running my station extremely laborious. I go to sleep with my station streaming and wake up the next morning to find out my station has gone down some time during the night.

I am trying to stick with it and I do realize and appreciate the time and effort everyone puts into developing and even supporting Airtime here on the forums but at the same time if you are trying to run a professional station Airtime, at least so far for me, is not getting the job done.

Please don't suggest going Airtime Pro as the solution either. I feel about that the same way I felt about Blog Talk Radio, If I don't like the free version why in the world would I pay for it?

As you can tell I am quite frustrated. My station has not even been on air a month yet and most of the time I have a "down for maintenance" message up.

$50 for unlimited video streaming. It looks like a joke.

Hi Martin,

Please don't think that I am not appreciative, I will openly admit that you have gone far above and beyond to help get this thing figured out. It is just frustrating for me that I am having to deal with this. I restarted my stream this morning at about 9:30 am, come back home and check around 3:30pm and it's down again : (
I would be the one to get the mystery bug, that has always been my luck : (

normally for the 2.5
we all wait for it since few months ;-)

Ashworth Payne said:

airtime devs are good.  they just don't understand what a stations need. one thing is for sure: no station ever needs silence to be broadcast.  its best to go off air. never ever broadcast silence.

That's not true.
Just go for the bug tracker dev.sourcefabric.org to see what's on the roadmap.
The problem is that almost every radio station has his own needs.

We drive a terrestrial Station with Airtime and we need Multiple-Local-Input-Functionality but we don't need webstream-functionality. We don't care of broadcasted silence, because we have a Hardware-Silence-Detector-Switch. Also, silence can trigger something...

To come to the point:
The devs are already working on a Fallback-Feature for v2.5 i think. http://dev.sourcefabric.org/browse/CC-1945
So why do you say, they don't understand what a station needs? You know the Bug-Tracker?
Seems like everything implemented yet has just been more important or easier to implement than fallback.

Ashworth,

Looks like you have the knowledge and ability to get exactly what you want.
Kudos to that, and that is what open-source is all-about. Airtime will
probably never take full-advantage of every Liquidsoap feature, because
then you may as well make the UI a developer console. However for many
users, it fits the use case quite nicely and is constantly improving in the
direction users want it.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Ashworth Payne <<br />airtime-support@lists.sourcefabric.org> wrote:

> so its been 4 days with liquidsoap and here is what i have so far...
>
> by default, ls plays random songs from a directory of songs. every 20
> minutes it plays a random promo.
>
> my mixer has usb outs/in. liquidsoap reads the usb, and if anything is
> coming from the mixer, it fades-out whatever random song is playing and
> brings the mixers output into the stream. all i have to do is turn the
> master fader up or down to force a transition.
> when the master faders go down, liquidsoap automatically plays random
> station id, and then returns to random play from a directory. this is a
> $140 8-ch mixer you can get from anywhere. nothing fancy.
>
> at the top of my priority list is input from remote dj's. if a dj
> connects, all other sources are faded out and control passes to the dj.
> when the dj disconnects, a station id plays and then random music, with a
> random promo every 20 minutes.
> since some of my dj's use turntables, i had to enable meta updates via the
> telnet server. those of you who don't broadcast online (and those of you
> who do so illegally) probably don't care about meta, but those of us paying
> royalties must have meta in our stream. so facilities for "old school"
> dj's is mandatory... one of my dj's has software that doesn't stream, but
> it does give meta in the window name... so i wrote a little app that
> scrapes the window name and sends it to the server... all automatically. i
> almost didn't land that guy as a DJ because of the metadata problem. he's
> gooood.
>
> lastly, i setup the last.fm scrobbler in liquidsoap (kudos to the mailing
> list for help with that). all metadata is scrobbled. this allows me to
> pull the songs from last.fm into my website... and it automatically
> includes album artwork. i need to make a few changes to the site sources
> in order to add "buy now" links for itunes etc.
>
> i'm authenticating my dj's with sqlite... it took me all day to get that
> working. i'm going to give them the ability to upload intro's and outro's
> for their shows. if a dj wants to enable intro/outro he/she can... those
> options will be stored in the db. their time-slots will also be stored, so
> if someone wants to connect when they shouldn't: no auth... and they can't
> hold the stream hostage either.
>
> the last bit to my project is audio processing. ladspa plugins allow for
> some nice processing on the stream. multiband compression and limiting.
> no need for other hardware. every dj sounds uniform.
>
> sorry if i sound like i'm bragging. i'm really not. i'm giving the devs
> a case-study from a real online broadcaster. hopefully they'll roll some of
> this into airtime.
>
>

Bob.  I'm not angry.  Airtime just doesn't (didn't) suit my needs.  And without feedback, the devs would never know why the product-of-their-efforts go unused.

Criticism is actually healthy.  If I were calling them a bunch of dung-beetles: this would be a whole other matter.

But I digress. As it happens, I have a new DJ coming on board who wants to make playlists on his lunchbreaks and have the show run during his timeslot (in other words: he has a regular job AND doesn't want to go live). So, I'm going to setup Airtime to act as a remote DJ for my script.  He can build his shows using the great GUI and allow the awesome scheduler to do the rest.

In this scenario, airtime fits.  So, its win/win.

I also tried rivendell ... now I am here ;-)

Recovering MegaSeg user chiming in.

In sunny Macland, we have this media framework called Quicktime and it's pretty powerful stuff. Playing music in iT or QT itself barely uses a tiny fraction of a modern intel chip. Just a couple %. Interestingly enough it was like that waaaay back in the powerpc dark ages, too.

It's audio, folks. This beast was conquered many moons ago.

Yet as of Snow Leopard, old Segs merrily gobbled up close to a third of an 8+ghz processor. Sometimes half! Even with all the bells and whistles turned OFF.

That's when I had to give it up and move on.

Truth is, some folks get it, and some just don't.

And don't even get me started on the massive UI design fail that is Radiologik.  8-|

for the moment that exactly true, but with the next version (2.6) that will be change a little ;-)