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  • Vote Up0Vote Down Micz FlorMicz Flor
    Posts: 184Administrator
    question/suggestion:

    using the auto publisher for articles (cron driven) also for templates:
    monday, 4am, make xyz.tpl the frontpage.tpl

    also: improve the scheduler to do repeated events.

    two use scenarios for this feature:

    a) switch off comments in the templates over night, when nobody is
    available to check on them. this has become an important feature in
    germany where some court decisions stated that the editorial team is
    responsible for the content on the website, including comments. so this
    is a feature larger publications use today already in germany.

    b) change your "look and feel" during the day. morning: traffic news on
    top, lunch time: restaurant reviews and ads, evening: tv programme. this
    would be easily done with a daily events and on template level.

    the current workaround would go through "phantom articles" and then
    lists with "if start" conditions, there the articles would be triggered
    by the scheduler.

    for comments and ideas: i created this ticket
    http://dev.sourcefabric.org/browse/CS-2912

    --
    Micz Flor
    Head of Communication, Sourcefabric
    micz.flor@sourcefabric.org

    Sourcefabric
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    10969 Berlin, Germany
    DE +49 (0)30 44044999

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  • Hi Micz,

    "a) switch off comments in the templates over night, when nobody
    is available to check on them."
    This could be more elegantly implemented by changing the comments related
    switches (enabled, moderated, public etc.) in the publication (see the
    publication edit screen).

    "b) change your "look and feel" during the day. morning: traffic news
    on top, lunch time: restaurant reviews and ads, evening: tv programme."
    If you don't really need a changed layout and look, just a different set of
    articles then this also can be implemented through article "playlists",
    custom lists of articles.

    Mugur Rus
    Senior Software Developer, Sourcefabric
    mugur.rus@sourcefabric.org

    Cluj-Napoca, Romania
    +40 (0)720 528408
    Skype: mugur_rus

    http://www.sourcefabric.org
    http://www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric



    On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Micz Flor <
    newscoop-dev@lists.sourcefabric.org> wrote:

    > question/suggestion:
    >
    > using the auto publisher for articles (cron driven) also for templates:
    > monday, 4am, make xyz.tpl the frontpage.tpl
    >
    > also: improve the scheduler to do repeated events.
    >
    > two use scenarios for this feature:
    >
    > a) switch off comments in the templates over night, when nobody is
    > available to check on them. this has become an important feature in
    > germany where some court decisions stated that the editorial team is
    > responsible for the content on the website, including comments. so this
    > is a feature larger publications use today already in germany.
    >
    > b) change your "look and feel" during the day. morning: traffic news on
    > top, lunch time: restaurant reviews and ads, evening: tv programme. this
    > would be easily done with a daily events and on template level.
    >
    > the current workaround would go through "phantom articles" and then
    > lists with "if start" conditions, there the articles would be triggered
    > by the scheduler.
    >
    > for comments and ideas: i created this ticket
    > http://dev.sourcefabric.org/browse/CS-2912
    >
    > --
    > Micz Flor
    > Head of Communication, Sourcefabric
    > micz.flor@sourcefabric.org
    >
    > Sourcefabric
    > Prinzessinnenstraße 20
    > 10969 Berlin, Germany
    > DE +49 (0)30 44044999
    >
    > Subscribe to our Newsletter:
    > www.sourcefabric.org/newsletter/
    >
    > www.sourcefabric.org
    > www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric
    >
    >
    >

  • Vote Up0Vote Down Sava TatićSava Tatić
    Posts: 113Member, Administrator, Sourcefabric Team
    On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Mugur Rus
    <newscoop-dev@lists.sourcefabric.org> wrote:
    >
    > Hi Micz,
    >
    > "a) switch off comments in the templates over night, when nobody
    > is available to check on them."
    > This could be more elegantly implemented by changing the comments related
    > switches (enabled, moderated, public etc.) in the publication (see the
    > publication edit screen).

    This sounds more elegant indeed. Yet...

    > "b) change your "look and feel" during the day. morning: traffic news
    > on top, lunch time: restaurant reviews and ads, evening: tv programme."
    > If you don't really need a changed layout and look, just a different set of
    > articles then this also can be implemented through article "playlists",
    > custom lists of articles.

    Say you want to have a different look and feel. Couldn't we add a
    template switching action to the scheduler? In fact, shouldn't we make
    our scheduler able to schedule any type of publishing related event?
    (Petr even had an idea today to implement a single scheduler for both
    Airtime and Newscoop...)

    All the best,

    Sava


    >
    > Mugur Rus
    > Senior Software Developer, Sourcefabric
    > mugur.rus@sourcefabric.org
    >
    > Cluj-Napoca, Romania
    > +40 (0)720 528408
    > Skype: mugur_rus
    >
    > http://www.sourcefabric.org
    > http://www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric
    >
    >
    >
    > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Micz Flor <
    > newscoop-dev@lists.sourcefabric.org> wrote:
    >
    > > question/suggestion:
    > >
    > > using the auto publisher for articles (cron driven) also for templates:
    > > monday, 4am, make xyz.tpl the frontpage.tpl
    > >
    > > also: improve the scheduler to do repeated events.
    > >
    > > two use scenarios for this feature:
    > >
    > > a) switch off comments in the templates over night, when nobody is
    > > available to check on them. this has become an important feature in
    > > germany where some court decisions stated that the editorial team is
    > > responsible for the content on the website, including comments. so this
    > > is a feature larger publications use today already in germany.
    > >
    > > b) change your "look and feel" during the day. morning: traffic news on
    > > top, lunch time: restaurant reviews and ads, evening: tv programme. this
    > > would be easily done with a daily events and on template level.
    > >
    > > the current workaround would go through "phantom articles" and then
    > > lists with "if start" conditions, there the articles would be triggered
    > > by the scheduler.
    > >
    > > for comments and ideas: i created this ticket
    > > http://dev.sourcefabric.org/browse/CS-2912
    > >
    > > --
    > > Micz Flor
    > > Head of Communication, Sourcefabric
    > > micz.flor@sourcefabric.org
    > >
    > > Sourcefabric
    > > Prinzessinnenstraße 20
    > > 10969 Berlin, Germany
    > > DE +49 (0)30 44044999
    > >
    > > Subscribe to our Newsletter:
    > > www.sourcefabric.org/newsletter/
    > >
    > > www.sourcefabric.org
    > > www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >


    --
    Sava Tatić
    Managing director, Sourcefabric o.p.s.
    sava.tatic@sourcefabric.org

    Salvátorská 10
    110 00 Praha 1, Czech Republic
    +420 2 22 36 25 40
    +1 647 889 2811 (Toronto)
    Skype: tictactatic

    http://www.sourcefabric.org
    http://www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric
  • "Say you want to have a different look and feel. Couldn't we add a template
    switching action to the scheduler? In fact, shouldn't we make our scheduler
    able to schedule any type of publishing related event? (Petr even had an
    idea today to implement a single scheduler for both Airtime and
    Newscoop...)"
    Of course we can implement anything, it's just a matter of resources and
    time. I just asked these questions to find out whether we can simplify
    things.

    Mugur Rus
    Senior Software Developer, Sourcefabric
    mugur.rus@sourcefabric.org

    Cluj-Napoca, Romania
    +40 (0)720 528408
    Skype: mugur_rus

    http://www.sourcefabric.org
    http://www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric



    2011/3/10 Sava Tatić <newscoop-dev@lists.sourcefabric.org>

    > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Mugur Rus
    > <newscoop-dev@lists.sourcefabric.org> wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi Micz,
    > >
    > > "a) switch off comments in the templates over night, when nobody
    > > is available to check on them."
    > > This could be more elegantly implemented by changing the comments related
    > > switches (enabled, moderated, public etc.) in the publication (see the
    > > publication edit screen).
    >
    > This sounds more elegant indeed. Yet...
    >
    > > "b) change your "look and feel" during the day. morning: traffic news
    > > on top, lunch time: restaurant reviews and ads, evening: tv programme."
    > > If you don't really need a changed layout and look, just a different set
    > of
    > > articles then this also can be implemented through article "playlists",
    > > custom lists of articles.
    >
    > Say you want to have a different look and feel. Couldn't we add a
    > template switching action to the scheduler? In fact, shouldn't we make
    > our scheduler able to schedule any type of publishing related event?
    > (Petr even had an idea today to implement a single scheduler for both
    > Airtime and Newscoop...)
    >
    > All the best,
    >
    > Sava
    >
    >
    > >
    > > Mugur Rus
    > > Senior Software Developer, Sourcefabric
    > > mugur.rus@sourcefabric.org
    > >
    > > Cluj-Napoca, Romania
    > > +40 (0)720 528408
    > > Skype: mugur_rus
    > >
    > > http://www.sourcefabric.org
    > > http://www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Micz Flor <
    > > newscoop-dev@lists.sourcefabric.org> wrote:
    > >
    > > > question/suggestion:
    > > >
    > > > using the auto publisher for articles (cron driven) also for templates:
    > > > monday, 4am, make xyz.tpl the frontpage.tpl
    > > >
    > > > also: improve the scheduler to do repeated events.
    > > >
    > > > two use scenarios for this feature:
    > > >
    > > > a) switch off comments in the templates over night, when nobody is
    > > > available to check on them. this has become an important feature in
    > > > germany where some court decisions stated that the editorial team is
    > > > responsible for the content on the website, including comments. so this
    > > > is a feature larger publications use today already in germany.
    > > >
    > > > b) change your "look and feel" during the day. morning: traffic news on
    > > > top, lunch time: restaurant reviews and ads, evening: tv programme.
    > this
    > > > would be easily done with a daily events and on template level.
    > > >
    > > > the current workaround would go through "phantom articles" and then
    > > > lists with "if start" conditions, there the articles would be triggered
    > > > by the scheduler.
    > > >
    > > > for comments and ideas: i created this ticket
    > > > http://dev.sourcefabric.org/browse/CS-2912
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > Micz Flor
    > > > Head of Communication, Sourcefabric
    > > > micz.flor@sourcefabric.org
    > > >
    > > > Sourcefabric
    > > > Prinzessinnenstraße 20
    > > > 10969 Berlin, Germany
    > > > DE +49 (0)30 44044999
    > > >
    > > > Subscribe to our Newsletter:
    > > > www.sourcefabric.org/newsletter/
    > > >
    > > > www.sourcefabric.org
    > > > www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Sava Tatić
    > Managing director, Sourcefabric o.p.s.
    > sava.tatic@sourcefabric.org
    >
    > Salvátorská 10
    > 110 00 Praha 1, Czech Republic
    > +420 2 22 36 25 40
    > +1 647 889 2811 (Toronto)
    > Skype: tictactatic
    >
    > http://www.sourcefabric.org
    > http://www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric
    >
    >

  • Vote Up0Vote Down Sava TatićSava Tatić
    Posts: 113Member, Administrator, Sourcefabric Team
    That's my goal too. The question is, does the universal scheduling "engine"
    make sense or not in the long run?

    All the best,

    Sava

    On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Mugur Rus <
    newscoop-dev@lists.sourcefabric.org> wrote:

    > "Say you want to have a different look and feel. Couldn't we add a
    > template
    > switching action to the scheduler? In fact, shouldn't we make our scheduler
    > able to schedule any type of publishing related event? (Petr even had an
    > idea today to implement a single scheduler for both Airtime and
    > Newscoop...)"
    > Of course we can implement anything, it's just a matter of resources and
    > time. I just asked these questions to find out whether we can simplify
    > things.
    >
    > Mugur Rus
    > Senior Software Developer, Sourcefabric
    > mugur.rus@sourcefabric.org
    >
    > Cluj-Napoca, Romania
    > +40 (0)720 528408
    > Skype: mugur_rus
    >
    > http://www.sourcefabric.org
    > http://www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric
    >
    >
    >
    > 2011/3/10 Sava Tatić <newscoop-dev@lists.sourcefabric.org>
    >
    > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Mugur Rus
    > > <newscoop-dev@lists.sourcefabric.org> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Hi Micz,
    > > >
    > > > "a) switch off comments in the templates over night, when nobody
    > > > is available to check on them."
    > > > This could be more elegantly implemented by changing the comments
    > related
    > > > switches (enabled, moderated, public etc.) in the publication (see the
    > > > publication edit screen).
    > >
    > > This sounds more elegant indeed. Yet...
    > >
    > > > "b) change your "look and feel" during the day. morning: traffic news
    > > > on top, lunch time: restaurant reviews and ads, evening: tv programme."
    > > > If you don't really need a changed layout and look, just a different
    > set
    > > of
    > > > articles then this also can be implemented through article "playlists",
    > > > custom lists of articles.
    > >
    > > Say you want to have a different look and feel. Couldn't we add a
    > > template switching action to the scheduler? In fact, shouldn't we make
    > > our scheduler able to schedule any type of publishing related event?
    > > (Petr even had an idea today to implement a single scheduler for both
    > > Airtime and Newscoop...)
    > >
    > > All the best,
    > >
    > > Sava
    > >
    > >
    > > >
    > > > Mugur Rus
    > > > Senior Software Developer, Sourcefabric
    > > > mugur.rus@sourcefabric.org
    > > >
    > > > Cluj-Napoca, Romania
    > > > +40 (0)720 528408
    > > > Skype: mugur_rus
    > > >
    > > > http://www.sourcefabric.org
    > > > http://www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Micz Flor <
    > > > newscoop-dev@lists.sourcefabric.org> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > question/suggestion:
    > > > >
    > > > > using the auto publisher for articles (cron driven) also for
    > templates:
    > > > > monday, 4am, make xyz.tpl the frontpage.tpl
    > > > >
    > > > > also: improve the scheduler to do repeated events.
    > > > >
    > > > > two use scenarios for this feature:
    > > > >
    > > > > a) switch off comments in the templates over night, when nobody is
    > > > > available to check on them. this has become an important feature in
    > > > > germany where some court decisions stated that the editorial team is
    > > > > responsible for the content on the website, including comments. so
    > this
    > > > > is a feature larger publications use today already in germany.
    > > > >
    > > > > b) change your "look and feel" during the day. morning: traffic news
    > on
    > > > > top, lunch time: restaurant reviews and ads, evening: tv programme.
    > > this
    > > > > would be easily done with a daily events and on template level.
    > > > >
    > > > > the current workaround would go through "phantom articles" and then
    > > > > lists with "if start" conditions, there the articles would be
    > triggered
    > > > > by the scheduler.
    > > > >
    > > > > for comments and ideas: i created this ticket
    > > > > http://dev.sourcefabric.org/browse/CS-2912
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > > Micz Flor
    > > > > Head of Communication, Sourcefabric
    > > > > micz.flor@sourcefabric.org
    > > > >
    > > > > Sourcefabric
    > > > > Prinzessinnenstraße 20
    > > > > 10969 Berlin, Germany
    > > > > DE +49 (0)30 44044999
    > > > >
    > > > > Subscribe to our Newsletter:
    > > > > www.sourcefabric.org/newsletter/
    > > > >
    > > > > www.sourcefabric.org
    > > > > www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Sava Tatić
    > > Managing director, Sourcefabric o.p.s.
    > > sava.tatic@sourcefabric.org
    > >
    > > Salvátorská 10
    > > 110 00 Praha 1, Czech Republic
    > > +420 2 22 36 25 40
    > > +1 647 889 2811 (Toronto)
    > > Skype: tictactatic
    > >
    > > http://www.sourcefabric.org
    > > http://www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >



    --
    Sava Tatić
    Managing director, Sourcefabric o.p.s.
    sava.tatic@sourcefabric.org

    Salvátorská 10
    110 00 Praha 1, Czech Republic
    +420 2 22 36 25 40
    +1 647 889 2811 (Toronto)
    Skype: tictactatic

    http://www.sourcefabric.org
    http://www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric

  • In the long run yes.

    Mugur Rus
    Senior Software Developer, Sourcefabric
    mugur.rus@sourcefabric.org

    Cluj-Napoca, Romania
    +40 (0)720 528408
    Skype: mugur_rus

    http://www.sourcefabric.org
    http://www.twitter.com/Sourcefabric



    2011/3/10 Sava Tatić <newscoop-dev@lists.sourcefabric.org>

    > That's my goal too. The question is, does the universal scheduling
    > "engine"
    > make sense or not in the long run?
    >
    > All the best,
    >
    > Sava
    >
    >