Best Soundcards to Use With Airtime - Airtime Support Discussions on Sourcefabric Forum

Voisses Tech · Post edited by Voisses Tech at 2013-10-04 12:02:36

So What is your thoughts on SoundCards to Use as input and Output For Airtime

The Best Sound Card I have Used since Ubuntu 10.04 is 2496 Audiophille.

Here is my bias

Linux carries superb drivers for it,not like the headache I had with fast track pro and Delta 44
Its Cheap ($50-90US)
it can carry separate line in and line out
it can give 2 channel in 2 channel out
its PCI
Good Sample Rate,periods and latency

I think the other Delta products like the 44,66 and 1010 are over kills for me.

and remember after all the reason I bought one of the 1010, was to test it,"No Like it At All" so returning it this weekend.Its like the Rolls Royce of all cards and I hate to say I will not be using all it has to give.

I found also the sabrent usb as a nice,cheap usb ($10USB) if you want two sound card using the internal card also of your system.

The Behringer UCA222 works nicely and I hate to have to return it but why would I,if I have no use for it now

Try my friend Matt Harley Suggestion on how to Handle Audio in Linux is Relevant

Try This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0axUPdFga8

So what Are you Using?

V.O.I.S.S.E.S

Can You hear me Now

Ps.

These sound cards are based on the VIA Ice1712 chipset aka Envy24 : M-Audio Delta 1010, Delta 1010LT, Delta DiO 2496, Delta 66, Delta 44, Delta 410 and Audiophile 2496. Terratec EWS 88MT, EWS 88D, EWX 24/96, DMX 6Fire, Phase 88. Hoontech Soundtrack DSP 24, Soundtrack DSP 24 Value, Soundtrack DSP 24 Media 7.1. Event Electronics EZ8. Digigram VX442. Lionstracs, Mediastaton. Terrasoniq TS 88. Roland/Edirol DA-2496.

Just type "Envy24" in the software center and install the drivers [amended based on @Albert Fr below]

This application displays a level meter for each input and output channel and maintains peak level indicators. This is based on Envy24's hardware peak metering feature. and is good for Monitoring your outputs

Voisses Tech

Yes the internals require either no tweaking at all or little

If you want a robust solution

Think about the MAudio deltas or 2496 audiophille

Albert FR

I'm no agree with you ;-)

delta 1010 is a great soundcard
but you need envy24control to use it correctly

with this card, the sound is really great ;-)

hoerich

Voisses Tech said:

The Best Sound Card I have Used since Ubuntu 10.04 is 2496 Audiophille.

Here is my bias
Linux carries superb drivers for it,

which drivers are you talking about? A friend of mine has a 2496Audiophile and would love to know!

My 2 cents about Soundcards:
In a Studio I absolutely need symmetric Inputs/Outputs with XLR or Jack Plug. No use for Cinch at all.

Currently we use a Delta 44, in future we want to use a Delta 1010 with ALSA.

@Albert FR
do you use it in ALSA mode. or with jack?
could you share you .asoundrc or asound.conf with me?
I'd also be very interested in frame-sizes and buffer-times you use with the Delta 1010, as I got no experiences with it so far...

cheers

Voisses Tech · Post edited by Voisses Tech at 2013-10-04 21:00:19

type 2496 or envy24 in the software center

its Mudita24 and it serves all the card I listed above

Disable the internal card in the bios so you will not have to do any asound configuration.

I used it with ALSA and the 2496 Audophille

do this command

liquidsoap -v --debug 'input.alsa(bufferize=false)'

it will give you the settings for the cards

you should see something similar to this

[alsa_in(default):3] Samplefreq=44100Hz, Bufsize=1764B, Frame=4B, Periods=55

Follow my tutorial on inputs on how to set it in the ls_script

V.O.I.S.S.E.S.

Can You Hear Me Now

hoerich · Post edited by hoerich at 2013-10-05 05:01:59

aah, your talking bout mudita24, but this is just a control GUI, no driver.

afaik, If I want to capture sound of specified Inputs on 1010, I have to compile driver for myself and use .asoundrc or asound.conf
http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-ice1712

Or how should I be able to capture f.e. Input 5&6 paired to stereo-line and output this sound in (almost) realtime? I want to use Live-Studio-Input on Input1&2, BBC-SAT-Input on Input 3&4 and Studio2 on Input 5&6.
So I have to address to self-created pcm's in .asoundrc or asound.conf looking like this...
pcm.ice1712_ch12, pcm.ice1712_ch34, pcm.ice1712_ch56, pcm.ice1712_ch78
see here under "The Naming of PCM Devices" http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc

with .asoundrc looking like this.

#
# M-Audio Delta 1010
#

pcm.ice1712_capture {
    type dsnoop
    ipc_key 1024
    slave {
        pcm "hw:M1010"
        period_size 0
        buffer_size 65536
        rate 44100
        channels 10
    }
}

pcm.ice1712_playback {
    type dmix
    ipc_key 1024
    slave {
        pcm "hw:M1010"
        period_size 0
        buffer_size 65536
        rate 44100
        channels 10
    }
}

pcm.ice1712_duplex {
    type asym
    playback.pcm ice1712_playback
    capture.pcm ice1712_capture
}

pcm.ice1712_ch12 {
    type plug
    ttable.0.0 1
    ttable.1.1 1
    slave.pcm ice1712_duplex
}

pcm.ice1712_ch34 {
    type plug
    ttable.0.2 1
    ttable.1.3 1
    slave.pcm ice1712_duplex
}

pcm.ice1712_ch56 {
    type plug
    ttable.0.4 1
    ttable.1.5 1
    slave.pcm ice1712_duplex
}

pcm.ice1712_ch78 {
    type plug
    ttable.0.6 1
    ttable.1.7 1
    slave.pcm ice1712_duplex
}

pcm.ice1712_ch90 {
    type plug
    ttable.0.8 1
    ttable.1.9 1
    slave.pcm ice1712_duplex
}

Then I can activate them with commands like arecord -D ice1712_ch34 -cd (for example)

Or do you know another way to activate Input3&4 or 5&6 via ALSA only?

Jimmy Brion

I switched from Creative's sound cards to onboard audio when I made the move to Windows Vista. It was a forced move due to the lack of drivers. The onboard audio was good enough by that time, though I did miss the added software that came with the card till I found replacements.

Andrea Sellaroli

I need a PCI express cheap sound-card. Does anyone know some good product?
Thanks a lot

Albert FR

m-audio are now in pcie
a good one :

M-Audio Delta Audiophile 192

Andrea Sellaroli

I can't find anyting in online shop. can you suggest me some good e-shop?
Thanks

Albert FR

http://www.woodbrass.com/product_info.php?products_id=25498&af=1647

Yannick

Hello

My audio card M-audio 1010 is dead from today.

I need new a new card in low cost. Audiophile 2496 is a good deal on eBay (-100$).

It's good choice again ?

Thanks

hoerich

Yannick said:
Hello

My audio card M-audio 1010 is dead from today.

I need new a new card in low cost. Audiophile 2496 is a good deal on eBay (-100$).

It's good choice again ?

Thanks

Open the extension module of the 1010 and look for broken ICs.
I successfully repaired a 1010 after buying correct IC in about 10mins and saved €500.
just go for a try before a new buy!
cheers

Voisses Tech

I would endorse that

hoerich said:

Yannick said:
Hello

My audio card M-audio 1010 is dead from today.

I need new a new card in low cost. Audiophile 2496 is a good deal on eBay (-100$).

It's good choice again ?

Thanks

Open the extension module of the 1010 and look for broken ICs.
I successfully repaired a 1010 after buying correct IC in about 10mins and saved €500.
just go for a try before a new buy!
cheers

Albert FR · Post edited by Albert FR at 2014-03-11 11:21:25

Hi Yannick
Yes 24/96 is a good choice
but you can find a dealer to buy it :

http://www.m-audio.fr/products/fr_fr/Audiophile2496.html

it's working really well on Gnu/Linux with a really good sound

Yannick

Hi guys,

Sorry for the late reply, I have not received notification

What is the IC?

A repairman told me that it came from the electricity supply, cost of repair 284 $ CAN

Finally I found an audiophile card 80 $ CAN.

Thanks

hoerich

Yannick said:
What is the IC?

sorry, I meant capacitors.
mostly, there's only one capacitor broken/burnt down.

M-Audio Delta Audiophile 192

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