At 15:32 08.06.2005, you wrote:
>hi,
>i made a small but smart javascript for tooltips on click. please
>have look on:
>http://helper.lowsource.org/
>and recognize the fadeout while closing
>this works on firefox/explorer/safari. without transparency on opera.
>perhaps we can intergrate this in the campsite admin interface.

paul, mugur, would that please the demands of the help tool you have in
mind?


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hi john

> That's quite nice! The fadeout is very sexy. Oompa!
thanks

> One little suggestion about the position of these help popups, it
> would
> be nice if they were easier to close. For example, perhaps the 'X'
> should come up on top of the '?' so that if you don't move your mouse,
> you can just click again where you were to close the popup.
the styles and buttons are not fixed. we can even make the tooltip
dragable

> One other issue is access to these help tips for non-JS and
> accessbility-limited users. That is probably able to be overcome by
> using the href="#" to link to an actual page; JS users wouldn't see
> that
> page because the "onclick" event would take preference
i agree. for the non-javascript users there should be a popup or
better: a title-tag with the information. there could be a noscript-
tag with the ?, which includes an alt- and a title-tag with the
information. you can influence the style of the system-tooltip using
stylesheets.

> One more suggestion (I'm on a roll now). An (optional) 'more
> information' link at the bottom of the popup would be useful
> sometimes -
> which would open a larger popup window, perhaps? Sometimes I find
> that I
> need to write a couple of paragraphs for some of the more complex
> input
> fields, search boxes, etc.
perhaps, we can use a scrollable layer for longer textinformation.

> What framework are you using to generate this form, by the way?
this is a homemade-framework. this is the intranet on my work. a php-
layer interprets a mysqldatabase and renders formfields depending on
properties of the databasefields (e.g. tinyint 2 is a radiobutton
with yes/no-option). very simple, very useful.

best flo

>> hi,
>> i made a small but smart javascript for tooltips on click. please
>> have
>> look on:
>> http://helper.lowsource.org/
>> and recognize the fadeout while closing
>> this works on firefox/explorer/safari. without transparency on opera.
>> perhaps we can intergrate this in the campsite admin interface.
>>
>> best flo
>>
>
>

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hi john,

>> i agree. for the non-javascript users there should be a popup or
>> better: a title-tag with the information. there could be a noscript-
>> tag with the ?, which includes an alt- and a title-tag with the
>> information. you can influence the style of the system-tooltip using
>> stylesheets.
>
> Just to clarify, I was thinking something like this:
>
>
> "

You could also allow the user to set the pop-up preferences:
- on mouse over
- on mouse click

I imagine this scenario: by default the popup is on mouse over; a new user will
see all these hints which will display help text and a link: disable hints.
When clicking on the disable link the preference will be set to "onmouseclick".
The user should be able to enable the "onmouseover" popups.

Also, you could close the popups when the mouse moves outside the popup window.

Mugur

--- Ondra Koutek wrote:
> I would be careful about onmouseover events, because tool tips in this case
> may popup too often and unwanted and may bother instead of help.
>
> Ondra
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: florian clauss [mailto:flo@etraum.de]
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