On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 09:04:53 +0100 Sebastian Goebel wrote:
> It seems empty data template for audioclip is not used.
>
> During file-upload first I call putFile() with mdataFileLP parameter set to
> NULL.
> After that I have to call replaceMetadata() with some constructed xml,
> elsewhere mdata is empty (no records in ls_mdata) and cannot be
> changed/added by setMDataValue().
>
> Would be better if putFile() use empty data template, like storeWebstream()
> seems to do.

Oh sorry - of course,
it's fixed and commited now.

Tomas Hlava
th@red2head.com

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Akos Maroy wrote:
> so, what is the relation between the above document, and the validator?
> what are the valid metadata?

speaking more of the issue, it's strange that on the main tab, genre is
said to be ls:genre, whereas on the music tab, it's marked as dc:type.

also, in Charles' design for the music tab, it's supposed to be a
drop-down menu for the music tab. vs. a text entry field on the main
tab. so, which one is it? if it's a drop-down, what is the value-set for it?


Akos

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Tomas Hlava wrote:
> I'sorry but namespace prefix is required now - try 'ls:genre'.

of course I tried ls:genre, but the error report quoted it without the
namespace..

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Tomas Hlava wrote:
> Yes, it's wrong.
> It may be probably dc:type (and ls:genre is unnecessary).
> I will fix metadataFields.html in CVS

great.

and is an open text field, or has a fixed value set? in the latter case,
what is the value set?

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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 19:13:35 +0100 Akos Maroy wrote:
> Tomas Hlava wrote:
> > I'sorry but namespace prefix is required now - try 'ls:genre'.
>
> of course I tried ls:genre, but the error report quoted it without the
> namespace..

Send me, please, XML generating this error.
ls:genre is marked as optional element in audioclip/metadata container.

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Tomas Hlava wrote:
> Send me, please, XML generating this error.
> ls:genre is marked as optional element in audioclip/metadata container.

you're right, the ls namespace was stripped on the C++ side, see:

http://bugs.campware.org/view.php?id=623


but: when was this introduced? I guess no one told Ferenc about it?
what values do we use from the ls: namespace? I guess genre is out, as
you've opted for dc:type instead...

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Sebastian and I were discussing this on Friday as well. The end user
probably shouldn't be able to add/edit menu items, but it would be good if
they were in config files with documentation explaining how they could be
edited. The other possibility would be to put that in the System Prefs in
the HTML UI.

doug






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Tomas Hlava wrote:
> I've found better value set for genres in list archive:

and is this list authoritive? should this be hard coded, or in a config
file? (please, don't tell me the user can add/remove genre values



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Sebastian and I were discussing this on Friday as well. The end user probably shouldn't be able to add/edit menu items, but it would be good if they were in config files with documentation explaining how they could be edited. The other possibility would be to put that in the System Prefs in the HTML UI.



doug

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> I've found better value set for genres in list archive:



and is this list authoritive? should this be hard coded, or in a config

file? (please, don't tell me the user can add/remove genre values






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Heh. All possible locations in the Known Universe would be pretty cool to
see in a pull-down. Those fields should be free text, with the
understanding (as the DC people explain it) that users can use either
textual names for location or GPS coordinates.

But generally, wherever possible, we should try to limit users' ability to
input junk data. For example, one person might put in 'Prague 6' and
another 'Praha 6' and a third 'P6' and they'd all be talking about the
same thing. The issue there is to try to strike a balance between ease of
use for the user and ease of development. Which is why config files would
be fine by me, with the assumption that by 1.1 we'd have some kind of
interface for their administration.

The other problem on things like 'Genre' come in when new styles of music
develop. 'Acid Jazz' might be too passe, and 'Nu Jazz' is the preferred
term, for example. Some way of editing those possibilities should be
allowed, but not for every user.

I'll work on the lists right now.

doug






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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> Sebastian and I were discussing this on Friday as well. The end user
> probably shouldn't be able to add/edit menu items, but it would be good
if
> they were in config files with documentation explaining how they could
be
> edited. The other possibility would be to put that in the System Prefs
in
> the HTML UI.

ok. please see the related issue I added to mantis:

http://bugs.campware.org/view.php?id=624

could I get a complete list of all metadata values of type 'menu'?

also, there are some strange metadata types of 'menu' type, like report
location and creator in the talk tab. I'm not sure if we want to list
all the possible location in the Universe, for example



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Heh. All possible locations in the Known Universe would be pretty cool to see in a pull-down. Those fields should be free text, with the understanding (as the DC people explain it) that users can use either textual names for location or GPS coordinates.



But generally, wherever possible, we should try to limit users' ability to input junk data. For example, one person might put in 'Prague 6' and another 'Praha 6' and a third 'P6' and they'd all be talking about the same thing. The issue there is to try to strike a balance between ease of use for the user and ease of development. Which is why config files would be fine by me, with the assumption that by 1.1 we'd have some kind of interface for their administration.



The other problem on things like 'Genre' come in when new styles of music develop. 'Acid Jazz' might be too passe, and 'Nu Jazz' is the preferred term, for example. Some way of editing those possibilities should be allowed, but not for every user.



I'll work on the lists right now.



doug

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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:

> Sebastian and I were discussing this on Friday as well. The end user

> probably shouldn't be able to add/edit menu items, but it would be good if

> they were in config files with documentation explaining how they could be

> edited. The other possibility would be to put that in the System Prefs in

> the HTML UI.



ok. please see the related issue I added to mantis:



http://bugs.campware.org/view.php?id=624



could I get a complete list of all metadata values of type 'menu'?



also, there are some strange metadata types of 'menu' type, like report

location and creator in the talk tab. I'm not sure if we want to list

all the possible location in the Universe, for example






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