I've got a couple of comments...

I think that if you're talking about putting syndication features into
Campsite, you'll definitely need to offer RSS feeds, that's the lingua
franca of syndication, I'd say. Everyone's got software to deal with RSS
feeds to it's the best way to start. Doug has a program that he uses to
load RSS feeds directly to his computer, for example. If you need to be
able to feed entire stories Reuters-style to other sites, then those
other standards apply I guess, but as you said, they're much more
complex and general-purpose, allowing radio/tv/newspaper content to be
bundled together, etc.

I see that Atom has a HTTP-based edit/post/feed API, it looks to me that
you can use it to *push* stories to a remote Atom server, as opposed to
waiting for the remote server to pull them (every 15 minutes etc). That
might be a consideration if you want to feed 'breaking news' to other
sites. RSS is a way of publishing a list of stories that other sites can
pick up when they wish, so it's not perfect for fast-breaking information.

I think ideally you would want to supply RSS for your whole site or
maybe for sections of your site for free (free publicity for your site,
may attract new subscribers), then you might want to also provide XML
versions of stories to publishers who pay for them (selling your stories
news agency style). Some sites only offer RSS to registered users, or
only to paid subscribers. That's an option too.

You can of course use server-side XSLT to transform a raw XML format
into various output formats, so probably choosing to code the XML output
in one particular way doesn't preclude adding other formats later.

JP

Paul Baranowski wrote:

> I'm starting to get to work on the 'campsite article import/export'
> feature, a.k.a. "XML feeds". This was the feature that was discussed
> in the Yahoo conference a couple weeks ago. This feature will allow
> you to specify feeds in the admin interface and then click a button
> to import the latest articles from that feed. You will also be able
> to upload articles in this way. The other half of this is enabling
> each campsite server to export articles in some sort of feed format.
>
> It hasnt been decided yet, however, what standard we are going to use
> for the feeds. Originally it was thought that RSS would be used, but
> RSS does not currently support syndication of the entire article
> content. (RSS 2.0 Spec: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss)
>
> The Atom specification DOES allow specification of the content: it has
> one format for syndication and content. Here is a link to the spec:
> http://atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/atom-format-spec.php
>
> "Atom makes it possible for developers to have a consistent,
> tightly-specified, well documented XML format for both syndication and
> authoring of content."
>
> Then there is also NewsML:
> http://www.newsml.org/IPTC/NewsML/1.2/specification/NewsML_1.2-spec-functionalspec_7.html
>
>
> But it seems like massive overkill, as seen here:
> http://www.newsml.org/IPTC/NewsML/1.2/specification/NewsML_1.2-spec-functionalspec_7.html#illni
>
>
> To me is seems like Atom is what we want. Any comments?
>
> - Paul
>
>

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> I have another question about article import: do we want to import when
> someone clicks a button, or on a set schedule, or both?
I would say both.

Mugur

>
> - Paul
>
>
> John Pye wrote:
>
> > I've got a couple of comments...
> >
> > I think that if you're talking about putting syndication features into
> > Campsite, you'll definitely need to offer RSS feeds, that's the lingua
> > franca of syndication, I'd say. Everyone's got software to deal with RSS
> > feeds to it's the best way to start. Doug has a program that he uses to
> > load RSS feeds directly to his computer, for example. If you need to be
> > able to feed entire stories Reuters-style to other sites, then those
> > other standards apply I guess, but as you said, they're much more
> > complex and general-purpose, allowing radio/tv/newspaper content to be
> > bundled together, etc.
> >
> > I see that Atom has a HTTP-based edit/post/feed API, it looks to me that
> > you can use it to *push* stories to a remote Atom server, as opposed to
> > waiting for the remote server to pull them (every 15 minutes etc). That
> > might be a consideration if you want to feed 'breaking news' to other
> > sites. RSS is a way of publishing a list of stories that other sites can
> > pick up when they wish, so it's not perfect for fast-breaking information.
> >
> > I think ideally you would want to supply RSS for your whole site or
> > maybe for sections of your site for free (free publicity for your site,
> > may attract new subscribers), then you might want to also provide XML
> > versions of stories to publishers who pay for them (selling your stories
> > news agency style). Some sites only offer RSS to registered users, or
> > only to paid subscribers. That's an option too.
> >
> > You can of course use server-side XSLT to transform a raw XML format
> > into various output formats, so probably choosing to code the XML output
> > in one particular way doesn't preclude adding other formats later.
> >
> > JP
> >
>
>
>




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