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Hi Paul,

My own preferences would be for article-level comments; there must
absolutely be both pre-approval and after-the-fact management of comments,
and it would be a good idea to provide support for spam filters along the
lines of Jay Allen's excellent MT-blacklist for comment spam blocking.

Could you possibly reuse some of the code - or at least the functionality
- from WordPress? I can give you a login to my WordPress blog if you'd
like to see how it's handled.


doug

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Paul Baranowski
05/06/2005 08:05 PM
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To: campsite-dev@campware.org, campsite-core@campware.org
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Subject: [campsite-dev] "Article Comments" feature


I am going to start working on the "Article Comments" feature, where the
idea is that readers can post a comment about an article they are reading.

I have some questions for those interested in this feature:

1) I assume that not all people will want this feature, so there needs
to be a way to turn it on and off. So at what level should it be
enabled or disabled: Publication, Issue, Section, Article? And if you
tell me "it should be possible at any and all of those places!", then I
must warn you that it has a high probability to become an administration
nightmare. i.e. if your comments arent showing up, you have to check
the configuration at all levels of the hierarchy in order to figure out
why.

2) Do you want the ability to approve comments before they are posted?

3) Or would you rather just have the ability to delete them
after-the-fact?

4) Do you want to have the ability to have the author emailed when a
comment is posted to his article?

If you have any other ideas on how it should work, please let me know!

- Paul





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Hi Paul,



My own preferences would be for article-level comments; there must absolutely be both pre-approval and after-the-fact management of comments, and it would be a good idea to provide support for spam filters along the lines of Jay Allen's excellent MT-blacklist for comment spam blocking.



Could you possibly reuse some of the code - or at least the functionality - from WordPress? I can give you a login to my WordPress blog if you'd like to see how it's handled.





doug



=============================================

Media Development Loan Fund

=============================================

Douglas Arellanes

Head of Research and Development

Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)

Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00  Prague 6

Czech Republic

Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419

Mobile: +420 724 073 364

http://www.mdlf-camp.net

http://www.campware.org

=============================================

http://www.mdlf.org

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Paul Baranowski <paul@paulbaranowski.org> 05/06/2005 08:05 PM Please respond to campsite-dev

To:        campsite-dev@campware.org, campsite-core@campware.org         cc:                 Subject:        [campsite-dev] "Article Comments" feature

I am going to start working on the "Article Comments" feature, where the

idea is that readers can post a comment about an article they are reading.



I have some questions for those interested in this feature:



1) I assume that not all people will want this feature, so there needs

to be a way to turn it on and off.  So at what level should it be

enabled or disabled: Publication, Issue, Section, Article?  And if you

tell me "it should be possible at any and all of those places!", then I

must warn you that it has a high probability to become an administration

nightmare.  i.e. if your comments arent showing up, you have to check

the configuration at all levels of the hierarchy in order to figure out

why.



2) Do you want the ability to approve comments before they are posted?



3) Or would you rather just have the ability to delete them after-the-fact?



4) Do you want to have the ability to have the author emailed when a

comment is posted to his article?



If you have any other ideas on how it should work, please let me know!



- Paul










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Perhaps the future-proof approach for spamproofing anonymous posts is to
use one of those funny 'challenges' like where you have to type in a
word that has been twisted around?
I believe there are good open source implementations of this already.

JP

Paul Baranowski wrote:

>
>> and it would be a good idea to provide support for spam filters along
>> the lines of Jay Allen's excellent MT-blacklist for comment spam
>> blocking.
>
>
> I also found SpamLookup (http://bradchoate.com/projects/spamlookup/),
> which combines a few different techniques (including MT-blacklist) to
> block spam (IP-based lookup, Domain-based lookup, TrackBack IP check,
> Passphrase checks, Checking HTTP Headers, Hyperlink Count limits,
> Dynamic proxy checking, Wordlists). It is a plugin for moveable type,
> and so we would have to convert the admin interface for it so that it
> works with campsite.)
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That sounds like it might be a good idea...where is the phorum code?


Micz Flor wrote:
> At 20:05 06.05.2005, you wrote:
>
>> 1) I assume that not all people will want this feature, so there needs
>> to be a way to turn it on and off. So at what level should it be
>> enabled or disabled: Publication, Issue, Section, Article?
>
>
> i think they should be included by the parser, meaning the webadmin
> decides if and where there are comments on the site. meaning: there is
> just one big switch for you:per publication. the rest is up to the
> webadmin/template wizzard.
>
>
>> 2) Do you want the ability to approve comments before they are posted?
>
>
> yes. in the admin you can set (again publication wide):
> a) unmoderated: postings go live immediately
> b) moderated: postings need to be approved by the editor
>
>
>> 3) Or would you rather just have the ability to delete them
>> after-the-fact?
>
>
> each posting can be
> a) edited
> b) deleted
>
>
>> 4) Do you want to have the ability to have the author emailed when a
>> comment is posted to his article?
>
>
> would be nice. but not priority
>
> what would be nice though:
>
> sebastian has written the whole phorum stuff for campsite. which has all
> these features, but with threads.
>
> it even has the quickadmin-email i showed you for the potential
> documentation tool, where you get an email with http links to edit or
> delete comments - that makes a hell of a difference to the editors!!!
>
> it also has it's own login *thing* which is nice for people to keep
> their email addresses and logins.
>
> i would like to see the comments feature to also have a login / user
> profile admin, ideally the one we already have, so people do not need to
> login twice in order to comment on the site.
>
> might it be a good idea to take phorum to do the comment job???
>
> Micz Flor - micz@mi.cz
>
> content and media development http://mi.cz
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