Thank you Voisses Tech! Your scripts are helping me (and others!) a lot to learn more about liquidsoap.

" when it goes back to the scheduled program, about 5-10 seconds later it cuts into the random fallback for 1-2 seconds, then back to the scheduled program!"

When does this occur
- if there is a  web schedule
- a schedule playlist
- master/show schedule

Basically this script is a filler fo silence and if the fallback occur then there is a gap (Schedule) between and silence switch over.

The script does nothing by itself but load songs when there is silence.

I need more details give me a time when you have a fallback so I can listen.I await another person to say that but from my test I do not have that problem.

What Icecast mount you use ? tell me let me see where your problem are

I listen to your stream here http://listen.radioclash.com:8000/streamhigh with rythmnbox and amarok and they disconnected a number of times.
VLC works most times so make sure all is well on your side

Voisses

If you hear this at fallback

playmymusicbackup=rotate(weights = [1,5],[mypromos,mymusicbackup]).

it means some thing is wrong with your schedule and Airtime- there is silence because of a schedule and non-schedule

If you hear this at fallback ie. your security file


default = fallback(track_sensitive = false,[playmymusicbackup,security])


it means some thing your music list is too short

Neither is the case, it happened randomly - as I said it cut back in after it cut out, when a scheduled item came in for instance - 10 seconds later you'd have 1-2 seconds of the fallback cutting in.

make promos be single
promos = single("/srv/backup/promos.mp3")

and make a 12s-14s mp3 with nothing(silence) or your station ID just use audacity  to do it .
then fiddle with crossfade under preference  make it like 7 s and let me know.

Why not do this type of programming in Airtime schedule?

But I will assume that you are like me I have one Live show on the weekend so all the other times I have a playlist run by itself.
I will not test a script like this but I will show you how to get it working.


#*********************************Safety First*********************************************

# lets first have a file called safety so that when something goes wrong
# or when a playlist end it will be trigger
# This can normally be a station Id etc.

  stationID = single("/srv/airtime/stor/stationid.mp3")



#*********************************The schedule**********************************************

#Lets first define the variable "radio" to be our schedule
 radio =
        switch([

                        ({ 0h-5h }, night),
                        ({ 5h-8h }, earlymorning),
                        ({ 8h-12h }, morning),
                        ({ 12h-18h }, midday),
                        ({ 18h-21h }, earlyevening),
                        ({ 21h-0h }, lateevening),
                        ({ true },stationID),

               ])

#*********************************Feed with music********************************************

# And now to play the back up music and if a schedule play that
# we will define a new variable to play that schedule called "music"
# do not use "radio" here its our schedule
# do not use "default" its our fallback
# random /rotate use "rotate" so that scan the "radio"list to the end of the  4th song to see
# if there is any change
#
music=rotate(weights = [1,4],[stationID,radio])

#*********************************Fallback to default******************************************
#  I would use track sensitive= false
#  track sensitive = true means that your schedule ("radio") may not come on at the exact time but
#  will wait until whatever is playing comes to an end to start
 
default = fallback(track_sensitive = false,[stationID,music])
#
#********************************* End ******************************************

NB

• Remember I did not test this and I still believe all these feature is covered  in airtime
• You should opt to put your files in a different directory than the airtime  so that you could use the upload script and give it write permission so that you can use an ftp ciient and upload
  
• 
  

Yes I did do a tutorial

I have move the discussion to a new thread http://forum.sourcefabric.org/discussion/16081/is-there-any-way-to-play-from-sound-cards-line-in-when-nothing-is-schedule  since this recent question is about sound card  and not ls_script modification

Finally
 If You chose to do Simple modification,This can be in one line  and even with external streams

I will use my one line  modification for silence found here [ I like this for fast,simple,and quick solution]

So here is what you would do something like this
#Use this to test first
#default = fallback(track_sensitive = false,[playlist(mode="normal","/srv/airtime/stor/imported/")])

Code Starts here:

#now modify to pick up an external stream instead

#external stream
urlexternalstream=input.http("http://localhost:port/mount")

# Some music,Jingles,Airtime library etc
somemusic =playlist("/srv/airtime/stor/imported/")

# you could put music weights to hit a jingle then a song etc

#Fallback where when there is no stream,play something and return when stream comes back online
default = fallback(track_sensitive = false,[urlexternalstream,somemusic])

Thanks for your suggestions @Bashatee but  this was the basic stuff ,The parts about separate includes liq was covered here  http://forum.sourcefabric.org/discussion/16091/fallover-101-how-to-make-all-scripts-worked-revisted-pt2-advance-reduce-effects-of-upgrade-brok/p1

There is also a thread that was started  for person who want to display the scripts.

I delve into a whole cases of different scenario (even got flap for some) but I even did  a One-line modification. you might want to read my comment in this post
http://forum.sourcefabric.org/discussion/16340/how-would-one-go-about-making-a-top-of-hour-script-which-plays-station-id-news-

My attempt here was to take a NOOB and let them follow through trying different cases(examples),wet the appetite and then broaden the knowledge.

Comment well respected

but I urge you to look through my posts,there are wonderful tips even how to use a Mixer/broadcast console even how to record painlessly.

I have two approach to teaching or coaching anyone

1. You must want to go further
2. You must Think its easy (never impossible)

Good Luck

VOISSES

"Open source is the best since slice bread"

ps.
I am not too clear on what you meant "mixed with schedule/live content"
 but to make your silence do not mixed with your schedule (if i am interpreting you correctly) you can do either of these

1. Set a transition  with jingles
2. Set a broader fallback with something like this (main content,jingle,jingle,security) or whatever
3. Do a smooth fade or crossfade

Like I said this is the easy stuff for the NOOB or like I always say dummies like me

@Bashatee_Radio
So here is a further thought,In my reflections on the possible reasons why the original author of the ls_script by putting the silence so that if something or nothing schedule I clearly see the logics of why they did it.

It is one of the reason ,I later wrote this post https://forum.sourcefabric.org/discussion/16909/autodj-sweetest-seen-fake-or-real-for-a-good-deal-free-free-no-unexpected-autoplay

its basic premise is that keep the silence as long you like and whatever you level you like.
This eliminate when say your DJ or web stream losses its connection and you are face with dead air for that period( and if that connection is lost for 1 hour or more your listener is face with this.)
As you can also see this will need tweak,it you are running a talk-show ,remote station or dj or web stream but works perfectly for all music,so you have to build on it  as I will never be able to contemplate all the possible uses of airtime.

so lets say you wanted the dead air for 2 minutes (120secs) should a disconnection occur,you would just put the max_blank=120 and so it will start 2 minutes after a disconnection

There are many other things you could do even putting a fall back with transitions to use the buffer or adaptive.buffer functions

My scope was to give the reader a navigation and they travel the journey

So unlike many,I want your thoughts and to contribute to it suggesting,could we do this or that to make it better.

so I glad you have something that works for you.

VOISSES
6 to Go

So I am not back (but explain later).
I gave you All the Answers,maybe some times in parable.
Look here https://forum.sourcefabric.org/discussion/16909/autodj-sweetest-seen-fake-or-real-for-a-good-deal-free-free-no-unexpected-autoplay at at number 5 in the said answer

"5.Make these values whatever you want like for most popular music 15sec @23db is sufficient.talk 60sec@45db and so on.(no hard and fast rule)"

now want  to make it sweeter  lets drop a jingles(or station id)

look here http://savonet.sourceforge.net/doc-0.9.2/cookbook.html and it basically says

•  For  (switch, fallback and random) use Transitions (however this A simple (long) cross-fade .can be misleading ,I would have preferred A simple (long) transitions)
  
• For Tracks Use Crossfades

now how do you use it

Just put the function (its in the utils but I want my custom version) some where above where you want to use it

here is mine

# Define a transition that fades out the
# old source, adds a single, and then
# plays the new source
def outside_k(jingle,old,new) =
  # Fade out old source
  old = fade.final(old)
  # Superpose the jingle
  s = add([jingle,old])
  # Compose this in sequence with
  # the new source
  sequence([s,new])
end

# A transition when switching back to files:
def outsidetrans_d(old,new) =
  # We skip the file
  # currently in new
  # in order to being with
  # a fresh file
  source.skip(new)
  sequence([old,new])
end

now for my default

I have say two jingles define jingles

The reason why you should use single is they a prepared and available once the script starts until the script end

do not use the same jingle immediately behind each other in a switch or transitions because if the script call the same source at the same time you will have some serious catch up to do when Source A request the Jingle that Source B is consuming. and you like will see "we must catch up 1.06 sec) and you will search down the world to get what's wrong

mystationID=single(blah)

myjingles1=single(another blah)

myjingles2=single(yet another blah)

#format default=fallback(track_sensitive=false,[transitions],[whatever to transition])

default=fallback(track_sensitive=false,[outsidetrans_k(mystationID),outsidetrans_k(myjingles1),outsidetrans_d(myjingles2)],[live,music,default*])

#so basically what it does in the case of

• live to music it plays the station Id
• from music to default a jingles
• from default to live a jingles

so if you use the above (5) you can time the amount of silence you want because once the logics is that once any one of the source become unavailable the previous will be tested for availability Then the proceeding will be tested for availability.

note previous source have priority and will go once they are available,so feel free to change the order to your liking

so if live becomes unavailable music will play ,if music becomes unavailable it will test live before proceeding to default.

notice some nice things in the cook book like fade final,source skip(like the current song in queues to a new on as the transition occurs)

so now with knowledge you should be able to change the djs line  which contains [trans ,trans blah blah] in the airtime script

Voisses

Now to Explain

No I am simple person,(dump,fool,and equally literate as the average person).The only thing that gives me a edge above a lot of person is I listen.I read it over and over.If  it is nonsense,I put it in RAM.
My EPROM and ROM is limited to used on Hogwash

No Senior person should insult me in here and you remove my reply and leave theirs
But all I ask is equity Remove theirs Also.

In the Meantime,as I said I have no passion,I am a Vulcan,give me equal space to blast "idiot-like" person or remove both of our stupidity

OOps this does not apply to All who seeks answer but the trolls here with some " basin-heads" Full of nothing but water

Voisses

# Script 1

#default = amplify(id="silence_src", 0.00001, noise())


#^^^^^^Start Of Modification^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

# Music

myplaylist     = playlist(mode="random",reload=300,"/srv/backup/music")


# If something goes wrong, we'll play this
startup = playlist("/srv/backup/startup")

# If something goes wrong, we'll play this
security = single("/srv/backup/drops/station.mp3")

#***********Start building the feed with music******************************************
# Start building the feed with music by assigning to the same clock (variables)

mymusicbackup = mksafe(myplaylist)
mystartup = startup

#**************Feed with music*************************************************************

# And now to play the back up music when something goes wrong
#This is the simplest way of having 1 song from your cart play for every 4 music
#just subsitute jingles for mystartup and the numbers you want like ratio 1:10

playmymusicbackup=rotate(weights = [1,4],[mystartup,mymusicbackup])



#*************Fallback to default******************************************************


#And finally the security
default = fallback(track_sensitive = false,[playmymusicbackup,security])




#^^^^^^^^End Of Modification^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

#Script 3

#default = amplify(id="silence_src", 0.00001, noise())


#^^^^Start Of Modification^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

#******Some music******************************************

# Music

myplaylist     = playlist(mode="random",reload=300,"/srv/backup/music")


# If something goes wrong, we'll play this like a startup
startup = playlist("/srv/backup/startup")

# If something goes wrong, we'll play this
security = single("/srv/backup/drops/station.mp3")

#
# jingles

jingles     = playlist(mode="random",reload=300,"/srv/backup/jingles")

#

# stationid
stationID    = playlist(mode="random",reload=300,"/srv/backup/stationid")

#

# for some sweepers

 sweeper = single("/srv/backup/sweepers.mp3")


#********Create Some Schedule Event**********************************

# This type of schedule will cause the music to stop
# The trick to make a seperate variable for schedule
# when the time reach liquidsoap knows something happen jumps to fall back and see there is a schedule
# It plays the fall back it first meets  
# the other type of schedule(sweepers) have placed after you define the variable

schedule=
         add([
               switch([
                        ({ 0m00s },delay(1.,jingles)),
                        ({ 0m30s},delay(1.,stationID)),
                        ({ 03m10s},delay(1.,jingles)),
                        ({ 15m00s},delay(1.,stationID)),
                        ({ 25m00s},delay(1.,jingles)),
                        ({ 30m00s},delay(1.,stationID)),
                        ({ 32m00s},delay(1.,jingles)), 
                        ({ 35m00s},delay(1.,jingles)),
                        ({ 45m00s},delay(1.,stationID)),
                        ({ 45m40s},delay(1.,jingles)),
                        ({ 50m00s },delay(1.,jingles)),
                     ])
           ])




#************Start building the feed with music**********************************
# Start building the feed with music by assigning to the same clock (variables)

mymusicbackup = mksafe(myplaylist)
mystartup = startup

#***********Feed with music***********************************

# And now to play the back up music when something goes wrong

playmymusicbackup=rotate(weights = [1,4],[mystartup,mymusicbackup])


#**********Schedule some sweepers****************************************

# This type of schedule will cause the music to keep playing
# The trick to use the existing variable a lay the switch on top of it
# when the time reach liquidsoap knows something happen and see there is an event
# It just keep playing and lay the track on top
# I can hardly explain this good
# playmymusicbackup is the varible I am using,so you have to put the event(schedule) after it
# lets amplify the sweeper first ,because although replay gain will reduce the music playing
# sometime you bearly hear it try not to over amplify 0.7 to 2 are good gains
# if your general output is too low play with replay gain in system settings
# but just to make the overlay sound higher amplify it
# s = amplify(2.0, s) is the format
# therefore
#
 
sweeper = amplify(2.0,sweeper)
 
#
# then we keep the music playing as we apply the switch
 
playmymusicbackup = add([
                       playmymusicbackup,
                            switch
                               ([
                                  ({20m00s},sweeper)
                               ])
                        ])




#********Processing Section********************************************************




#*********Fallback to schedule with music*******************************************

# Fall back for Music track_sensitive=false,because we want the music pause/stop
#then  play the schedule and start again

playmymusicbackup = fallback(track_sensitive = false,[schedule,playmymusicbackup])



#*******Fallback to default******************************************************


#And finally the security

default = fallback(track_sensitive = false,[schedule,playmymusicbackup,security])



#^^^^^^End Of Modification^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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