[campcaster-support] Campcaster in India
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    Hi,

    We are planning to use Campcaster to set up a community-radio station in
    India. Some quick questions:

    * It appears that the Live Studio Broadcast supports a microphone input
    for the DJ that gets broadcasted on air. Is is possible to also record
    the voice simultaneously? Or, should something like Audacity be used to
    capture the voice? If so, will running both Audacity and Campcaster at
    the same time cause any jitter in the broadcast?

    * What is the recommended hardware platform in terms of CPU and sound
    cards? What FM transmitters are recommended? Most FM transmitters appear
    to have a very low transmission power, but we would typically like to
    achieve a range of 10-15km. Can you please give some recommendations on
    amplification circuits?

    * What is the reason that 3 sound cards are needed if we want to do both
    live and scheduled broadcast? Is it done only for ease of use, or is
    that fewer sound cards result in the two Campcaster applications
    interfering with each other? We would ideally like to keep the cost the
    equipment as low as possible, and hence use the least number of sound cards.

    * Are there any benefits to using an FM PCI card instead of a sound card
    + FM transmitter?

    * Is somebody working on integrating a content management system such as
    Drupal with Campcaster? We would ideally like to have a single platform
    to access information including both RSS feeds for news updates and
    audio files for radio broadcast.

    * Is somebody working on integrating celliax or some other system with
    Campcaster for live interaction with the radio audience through cellular
    or landline or Skype dial-in?

    Thanks in advance!

    Adi
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  • Hi Adi,

    Thank you for your interest in our Campcaster system for radio playout,
    automation and program exchange. I'll try to go through your questions one
    by one here.

    * It appears that the Live Studio Broadcast supports a microphone input
    for the DJ that gets broadcasted on air. Is is possible to also record
    the voice simultaneously? Or, should something like Audacity be used to
    capture the voice? If so, will running both Audacity and Campcaster at
    the same time cause any jitter in the broadcast?

    Campcaster Studio is intended to be used through a mic mixer, so that the
    output from Studio would be one channel on the mixer, a microphone would
    be another, a CD player would be another, and so on. Depending on the
    speed of the computer you are working on, it may be possible to
    simultaneously record voice on the same computer, but this is not
    recommended. It may be easier to buy an inexpensive MP3 player/recorder
    and record your voice on that, or possibly to do voice work on a separate
    computer if possible.

    In theory, running both Audacity and Campcaster is OK if your computer is
    fast enough, but again, this is not recommended. Also, please note that
    Campcaster does not currently provide voice tracking functionality. One
    idea we had, however, was that Audacity could save directly to a
    Campcaster storage server, but this has not gone further than the
    conceptual phase. We would welcome the help, though.

    * What is the recommended hardware platform in terms of CPU and sound
    cards? What FM transmitters are recommended? Most FM transmitters appear
    to have a very low transmission power, but we would typically like to
    achieve a range of 10-15km. Can you please give some recommendations on
    amplification circuits?

    As a rule, the recommended hardware platform would be a relatively modern
    computer with a CPU speed of 1 Ghz or higher (again, the faster the
    better) and at least 2 gigabytes of memory. We have had good experience
    with SoundBlaster sound cards, but if you can afford a better sound card
    such as one made by M-Audio, that is even better. We recommend USB
    external sound cards because there are not the same problems with drivers
    that sometimes occurs with internal or high-end cards. You can also check
    card compatibility by visiting the ALSA project at www.alsa-project.org;
    if the card is listed as being compatible there, it should run Campcaster
    OK.

    FM transmitters are a matter of individual choice. Transmitter power is
    one factor in its overall range; another one is the location of the
    transmitter, where if it is at the top of a high hill the range is usually
    greater than if it is in a canyon. But transmitter power is also governed
    by your licensing authorities; your license may limit the amount of
    transmitter power. It is _extremely_ important to make sure that your
    transmitter is legal, otherwise you and your organization face serious
    consequences.

    * What is the reason that 3 sound cards are needed if we want to do both
    live and scheduled broadcast? Is it done only for ease of use, or is
    that fewer sound cards result in the two Campcaster applications
    interfering with each other? We would ideally like to keep the cost the
    equipment as low as possible, and hence use the least number of sound
    cards.

    We recommend using 3 sound cards for broadcast - one for Live Mode output
    in Campcaster Studio, one for preview in Campcaster Studio (so that you
    can listen to one item while another one is playing) and one for scheduled
    output. You can use only one sound card with Campcaster, but you will lose
    functionality. If you use only one sound card, there is a very good
    likelihood that your playout will interfere with each other, i.e. the
    scheduled output will play at the same as the live output and possibly
    with preview over that. In addition, sound cards are relatively
    inexpensive these days - depending on where you are they cost between USD
    $5 and $200 depending on the quality. Also, remember that most computers
    now ship with at least one sound card, so you could conceivably only need
    to buy one other card - again, we recommend USB sound cards.

    * Are there any benefits to using an FM PCI card instead of a sound card
    + FM transmitter?

    I assume you are talking about an internal FM transmitter card that runs
    on a computer's PCI slot. This could be an interesting solution if you are
    looking to broadcast to a very limited range or if you have a very good
    hilltop location. You will still need a good antenna for the card output.

    However, we still recommend a separate FM transmitter; if there is a
    problem with the computer, for example, you may still be able to broadcast
    from CDs or cassettes while the computer is being serviced. But if the
    entire machine is in for service, you'll definitely be off the air.


    * Is somebody working on integrating a content management system such as
    Drupal with Campcaster? We would ideally like to have a single platform
    to access information including both RSS feeds for news updates and
    audio files for radio broadcast.

    We're very glad you asked that question Wink)) We also make a content
    management system called Campsite that provides integration with
    Campcaster out of the box. With it you can have RSS feeds for news updates
    and audio files for audio on demand through the site, as well as the files
    for audio broadcast. You can find out more about Campsite 3.0 at
    http://www.campware.org.

    With other content management systems you would have to do some
    programming to create an interface between the Campcaster storage server
    and the content management system. This may either be something you would
    be able to do very easily in-house or contract someone out to do. If you
    decide to do this, please let us know and we will be happy to provide you
    with pointers and technical documentation. By the way, our developers'
    page is at http://code.campware.org/projects/campcaster.


    * Is somebody working on integrating celliax or some other system with
    Campcaster for live interaction with the radio audience through cellular
    or landline or Skype dial-in?

    We've wanted to have integration with Asterisk in general for quite some
    time for the provision of such things as audio on demand. We have limited
    resources of our own, but would be delighted to have others continue to
    build new functionality on top of Campcaster. That's what open source is
    all about Smile


    I hope this at least answers some of your questions. We'll be looking
    forward to additional questions and ideas.


    Best regards,


    Douglas Arellanes







    =============================================
    Media Development Loan Fund
    =============================================
    Douglas Arellanes
    Head of Research and Development
    Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)
    Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6
    Czech Republic
    Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419
    Mobile: +420 724 073 364
    Skype and Yahoo IM: dougiegyro
    http://www.campware.org
    =============================================
    http://www.mdlf.org
    =============================================




    Aaditeshwar Seth
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    05/24/2008 12:53 AM
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    To: campcaster-support@netfinity-4.mdlf.org, Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org
    cc:
    Subject: [campcaster-support] Campcaster in India


    Hi,

    We are planning to use Campcaster to set up a community-radio station in
    India. Some quick questions:

    * It appears that the Live Studio Broadcast supports a microphone input
    for the DJ that gets broadcasted on air. Is is possible to also record
    the voice simultaneously? Or, should something like Audacity be used to
    capture the voice? If so, will running both Audacity and Campcaster at
    the same time cause any jitter in the broadcast?

    * What is the recommended hardware platform in terms of CPU and sound
    cards? What FM transmitters are recommended? Most FM transmitters appear
    to have a very low transmission power, but we would typically like to
    achieve a range of 10-15km. Can you please give some recommendations on
    amplification circuits?

    * What is the reason that 3 sound cards are needed if we want to do both
    live and scheduled broadcast? Is it done only for ease of use, or is
    that fewer sound cards result in the two Campcaster applications
    interfering with each other? We would ideally like to keep the cost the
    equipment as low as possible, and hence use the least number of sound
    cards.

    * Are there any benefits to using an FM PCI card instead of a sound card
    + FM transmitter?

    * Is somebody working on integrating a content management system such as
    Drupal with Campcaster? We would ideally like to have a single platform
    to access information including both RSS feeds for news updates and
    audio files for radio broadcast.

    * Is somebody working on integrating celliax or some other system with
    Campcaster for live interaction with the radio audience through cellular
    or landline or Skype dial-in?

    Thanks in advance!

    Adi
  • Doug has forgotten to mention that we have an outline of how Campcaster and
    Campsite interact here:

    http://code.campware.org/projects/campcaster/wiki/RadioPackageHOWTO

    In that setup, you could have all of your broadcasts recorded by darkice
    (see the part about archives), so you could possibly avoid Audacity. The
    setup in the example calls for several computers, but you can try and
    experiment with one. It may work.

    Sava




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    Hi Adi,

    Thank you for your interest in our Campcaster system for radio playout,
    automation and program exchange. I'll try to go through your questions one
    by one here.

    * It appears that the Live Studio Broadcast supports a microphone input
    for the DJ that gets broadcasted on air. Is is possible to also record
    the voice simultaneously? Or, should something like Audacity be used to
    capture the voice? If so, will running both Audacity and Campcaster at
    the same time cause any jitter in the broadcast?

    Campcaster Studio is intended to be used through a mic mixer, so that the
    output from Studio would be one channel on the mixer, a microphone would be
    another, a CD player would be another, and so on. Depending on the speed of
    the computer you are working on, it may be possible to simultaneously
    record voice on the same computer, but this is not recommended. It may be
    easier to buy an inexpensive MP3 player/recorder and record your voice on
    that, or possibly to do voice work on a separate computer if possible.

    In theory, running both Audacity and Campcaster is OK if your computer is
    fast enough, but again, this is not recommended. Also, please note that
    Campcaster does not currently provide voice tracking functionality. One
    idea we had, however, was that Audacity could save directly to a Campcaster
    storage server, but this has not gone further than the conceptual phase. We
    would welcome the help, though.

    * What is the recommended hardware platform in terms of CPU and sound
    cards? What FM transmitters are recommended? Most FM transmitters appear
    to have a very low transmission power, but we would typically like to
    achieve a range of 10-15km. Can you please give some recommendations on
    amplification circuits?

    As a rule, the recommended hardware platform would be a relatively modern
    computer with a CPU speed of 1 Ghz or higher (again, the faster the better)
    and at least 2 gigabytes of memory. We have had good experience with
    SoundBlaster sound cards, but if you can afford a better sound card such as
    one made by M-Audio, that is even better. We recommend USB external sound
    cards because there are not the same problems with drivers that sometimes
    occurs with internal or high-end cards. You can also check card
    compatibility by visiting the ALSA project at www.alsa-project.org; if the
    card is listed as being compatible there, it should run Campcaster OK.

    FM transmitters are a matter of individual choice. Transmitter power is one
    factor in its overall range; another one is the location of the
    transmitter, where if it is at the top of a high hill the range is usually
    greater than if it is in a canyon. But transmitter power is also governed
    by your licensing authorities; your license may limit the amount of
    transmitter power. It is _extremely_ important to make sure that your
    transmitter is legal, otherwise you and your organization face serious
    consequences.

    * What is the reason that 3 sound cards are needed if we want to do both
    live and scheduled broadcast? Is it done only for ease of use, or is
    that fewer sound cards result in the two Campcaster applications
    interfering with each other? We would ideally like to keep the cost the
    equipment as low as possible, and hence use the least number of sound
    cards.

    We recommend using 3 sound cards for broadcast - one for Live Mode output
    in Campcaster Studio, one for preview in Campcaster Studio (so that you can
    listen to one item while another one is playing) and one for scheduled
    output. You can use only one sound card with Campcaster, but you will lose
    functionality. If you use only one sound card, there is a very good
    likelihood that your playout will interfere with each other, i.e. the
    scheduled output will play at the same as the live output and possibly with
    preview over that. In addition, sound cards are relatively inexpensive
    these days - depending on where you are they cost between USD $5 and $200
    depending on the quality. Also, remember that most computers now ship with
    at least one sound card, so you could conceivably only need to buy one
    other card - again, we recommend USB sound cards.

    * Are there any benefits to using an FM PCI card instead of a sound card
    + FM transmitter?

    I assume you are talking about an internal FM transmitter card that runs on
    a computer's PCI slot. This could be an interesting solution if you are
    looking to broadcast to a very limited range or if you have a very good
    hilltop location. You will still need a good antenna for the card output.

    However, we still recommend a separate FM transmitter; if there is a
    problem with the computer, for example, you may still be able to broadcast
    from CDs or cassettes while the computer is being serviced. But if the
    entire machine is in for service, you'll definitely be off the air.


    * Is somebody working on integrating a content management system such as
    Drupal with Campcaster? We would ideally like to have a single platform
    to access information including both RSS feeds for news updates and
    audio files for radio broadcast.

    We're very glad you asked that question Wink)) We also make a content
    management system called Campsite that provides integration with Campcaster
    out of the box. With it you can have RSS feeds for news updates and audio
    files for audio on demand through the site, as well as the files for audio
    broadcast. You can find out more about Campsite 3.0 at
    http://www.campware.org.

    With other content management systems you would have to do some programming
    to create an interface between the Campcaster storage server and the
    content management system. This may either be something you would be able
    to do very easily in-house or contract someone out to do. If you decide to
    do this, please let us know and we will be happy to provide you with
    pointers and technical documentation. By the way, our developers' page is
    at http://code.campware.org/projects/campcaster.


    * Is somebody working on integrating celliax or some other system with
    Campcaster for live interaction with the radio audience through cellular
    or landline or Skype dial-in?

    We've wanted to have integration with Asterisk in general for quite some
    time for the provision of such things as audio on demand. We have limited
    resources of our own, but would be delighted to have others continue to
    build new functionality on top of Campcaster. That's what open source is
    all about Smile


    I hope this at least answers some of your questions. We'll be looking
    forward to additional questions and ideas.


    Best regards,


    Douglas Arellanes







    =============================================
    Media Development Loan Fund
    =============================================
    Douglas Arellanes
    Head of Research and Development
    Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)
    Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6
    Czech Republic
    Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419
    Mobile: +420 724 073 364
    Skype and Yahoo IM: dougiegyro
    http://www.campware.org
    =============================================
    http://www.mdlf.org
    =============================================


    Aaditeshwar Seth
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    05/24/2008 12:53 AM India
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    Hi,

    We are planning to use Campcaster to set up a community-radio station in
    India. Some quick questions:

    * It appears that the Live Studio Broadcast supports a microphone input
    for the DJ that gets broadcasted on air. Is is possible to also record
    the voice simultaneously? Or, should something like Audacity be used to
    capture the voice? If so, will running both Audacity and Campcaster at
    the same time cause any jitter in the broadcast?

    * What is the recommended hardware platform in terms of CPU and sound
    cards? What FM transmitters are recommended? Most FM transmitters appear
    to have a very low transmission power, but we would typically like to
    achieve a range of 10-15km. Can you please give some recommendations on
    amplification circuits?

    * What is the reason that 3 sound cards are needed if we want to do both
    live and scheduled broadcast? Is it done only for ease of use, or is
    that fewer sound cards result in the two Campcaster applications
    interfering with each other? We would ideally like to keep the cost the
    equipment as low as possible, and hence use the least number of sound
    cards.

    * Are there any benefits to using an FM PCI card instead of a sound card
    + FM transmitter?

    * Is somebody working on integrating a content management system such as
    Drupal with Campcaster? We would ideally like to have a single platform
    to access information including both RSS feeds for news updates and
    audio files for radio broadcast.

    * Is somebody working on integrating celliax or some other system with
    Campcaster for live interaction with the radio audience through cellular
    or landline or Skype dial-in?

    Thanks in advance!

    Adi





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  • Thanks Doug and Sava! The information really helps. I think for now I am
    going to use the suggested configuration, probably with 2 computers.
    I'll run Campcaster on the first computer, and have an external mixer to
    also get inputs from sources such as a mic and a phone. Then I plan to
    direct the mixer output to an FM transmitter, and also into the
    soundcard of the second computer. I think I can then use
    Campsite/Darkice on the second computer to archive and stream the broadcast.

    I'm planning to use the Via mini ETX boxes because of their low power
    consumption. What do you think?

    What would suggest for a good 25-50W FM transmitter?

    In the future, this is what I really want to do -- have all the mixing
    done in software itself, from sources including a live mic, Campcaster
    studio, and a cellphone interfaced through celliax. Then, if I use a PCI
    or USB FM transmitter card, I can eliminate the need for a $500 FM
    transmitter, and only have a cheap handmade RF amplifier to get a good
    FM output. I think I might run into OS scheduler issues to do mixing in
    software, but hopefully they'll be solvable.

    And I'll definitely contribute to the code.

    regards
    Adi