[ls-support] fading out/fading in and uploads

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I want to be able to play two music tracks simultaneously, so I can fade
one down and the other one up at the same time. How can I do this in
livesupport? I only have one soundcard in my laptop.

My other query is ... I find uploading music tracks one at a time very
slow. Is there any way to upload a whole CD full of tracks, all at once?

I'm using Livesupport 1.1 with Ubuntu Dapper

Thanks

Jimmy

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Thanks Douglas ... I was wondering if I'd missed something. For my
purposes that makes Livesupport good for scheduling but not so good for
programme production and live work. So I look forward to trying out
Belgrade.

Any ideas on uploading several files at the same time?

Thanks for your prompt reply, and good luck with livesupport.

Jimmy

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:43:42 +0100, wrote:

> Hi Jimmy,
>
> The first thing is that the Live Mode currently doesn't allow for fades.
> Playlists, however, can have their items faded; you can set the fade
> value
> in seconds both before and after each file. This can be done in the
> playlist edit window. Once a playlist has been made, it can be played in
> Live Mode with all of its fade info retained.
>
> It's a kludge, and we expect to have fades working in live mode as of the
> next version, 1.2.0 "Belgrade" by the end of the year.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>
> douglas
>
>
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> "Jimmy Black"
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> To: ls-support@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
> cc:
> Subject: [ls-support] fading out/fading in and uploads
>
>
> I want to be able to play two music tracks simultaneously, so I can fade
> one down and the other one up at the same time. How can I do this in
> livesupport? I only have one soundcard in my laptop.
>
> My other query is ... I find uploading music tracks one at a time very
> slow. Is there any way to upload a whole CD full of tracks, all at once?
>
> I'm using Livesupport 1.1 with Ubuntu Dapper
>
> Thanks
>
> Jimmy
>

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Thanks Douglas

I'll try this later when I've got more time, and I'll report back

Jimmy

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:54:52 +0100, wrote:

> As for the second question, about file uploads, there is a mass import
> script in this directory:
>
> /opt/livesupport/bin/import.sh -d
>
> I'm using the development environment, so the import script is in
>
> /src/livesupport/src/modules/storageAdmin/bin/import.sh
>
> Please be careful, however, because bad metadata from ID3 tags will cause
> problems for you later on; things like quote marks in the tags or other
> characters, as well as some tags in UTF-16 will also cause trouble and
> may
> even cause LiveSupport Studio to crash. We're working on getting to the
> source of that problem now and would welcome your feedback and
> experiences
> with it.
>
> Another tip, though, is that you can make a Launcher on your Gnome
> desktop
> for the import script. On your desktop, you can choose 'Create Launcher'
> and then using the 'browse' button, go to the location where your
> import.sh script is located. You'll have to add the -d for the directory
> and click the 'Run in Terminal' check box, but then when you drag a
> folder
> on to the launcher, it will automatically import the folder in question.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>
> douglas
>
>
> =============================================
> Media Development Loan Fund
> =============================================
> Douglas Arellanes
> Head of Research and Development
> Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)
> Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6
> Czech Republic
> Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419
> Mobile: +420 724 073 364
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>
>
>
> "Jimmy Black"
> Sent by: ls-support-bounces@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
> 09/14/2006 02:31 PM
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> project
>
> To: ls-support@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
> cc:
> Subject: [ls-support] fading out/fading in and uploads
>
>
> I want to be able to play two music tracks simultaneously, so I can fade
> one down and the other one up at the same time. How can I do this in
> livesupport? I only have one soundcard in my laptop.
>
> My other query is ... I find uploading music tracks one at a time very
> slow. Is there any way to upload a whole CD full of tracks, all at once?
>
> I'm using Livesupport 1.1 with Ubuntu Dapper
>
> Thanks
>
> Jimmy
>

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Hi Douglas

This defeated me, probably because I'm still very new to Linux. I created
a launcher and navigated to the directory, but I wasn't sure where to put
the -d.

Jimmy

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:54:52 +0100, wrote:

> As for the second question, about file uploads, there is a mass import
> script in this directory:
>
> /opt/livesupport/bin/import.sh -d
>
> I'm using the development environment, so the import script is in
>
> /src/livesupport/src/modules/storageAdmin/bin/import.sh
>
> Please be careful, however, because bad metadata from ID3 tags will cause
> problems for you later on; things like quote marks in the tags or other
> characters, as well as some tags in UTF-16 will also cause trouble and
> may
> even cause LiveSupport Studio to crash. We're working on getting to the
> source of that problem now and would welcome your feedback and
> experiences
> with it.
>
> Another tip, though, is that you can make a Launcher on your Gnome
> desktop
> for the import script. On your desktop, you can choose 'Create Launcher'
> and then using the 'browse' button, go to the location where your
> import.sh script is located. You'll have to add the -d for the directory
> and click the 'Run in Terminal' check box, but then when you drag a
> folder
> on to the launcher, it will automatically import the folder in question.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>
> douglas
>
>
> =============================================
> Media Development Loan Fund
> =============================================
> Douglas Arellanes
> Head of Research and Development
> Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)
> Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6
> Czech Republic
> Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419
> Mobile: +420 724 073 364
> http://www.mdlf-camp.net
> http://www.campware.org
> =============================================
> http://www.mdlf.org
> =============================================
>
>
>
>
> "Jimmy Black"
> Sent by: ls-support-bounces@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
> 09/14/2006 02:31 PM
> Please respond to Support mailing list for the LiveSupport software
> project
>
> To: ls-support@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
> cc:
> Subject: [ls-support] fading out/fading in and uploads
>
>
> I want to be able to play two music tracks simultaneously, so I can fade
> one down and the other one up at the same time. How can I do this in
> livesupport? I only have one soundcard in my laptop.
>
> My other query is ... I find uploading music tracks one at a time very
> slow. Is there any way to upload a whole CD full of tracks, all at once?
>
> I'm using Livesupport 1.1 with Ubuntu Dapper
>
> Thanks
>
> Jimmy
>

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I'll give it another go at the weekend - thanks

Jimmy

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:57:59 +0100, wrote:

> The -d goes after the import.sh, so it should probably look like this:
>
> /opt/livesupport/bin/import.sh -d (if you're using the 1.1 beta)
>
> or /src/livesupport/src/modules/storageAdmin/bin/import.sh -d (if you're
> using the Development Environment)
>
> Make sure the 'open in terminal window' check box is checked, and then
> drag a folder on to your launcher item (I usually use the Gnome VU meter
> icon, by the way) and then it should import.
>
> Let me know if that works for you,
>
>
> douglas
>
> =============================================
> Media Development Loan Fund
> =============================================
> Douglas Arellanes
> Head of Research and Development
> Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)
> Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6
> Czech Republic
> Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419
> Mobile: +420 724 073 364
> http://www.mdlf-camp.net
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> =============================================
> http://www.mdlf.org
> =============================================
>
>
>
>
> "Jimmy Black"
> Sent by: ls-support-bounces@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
> 09/14/2006 09:53 PM
> Please respond to Support mailing list for the LiveSupport software
> project
>
> To: "Support mailing list for the LiveSupport software
> project"
>
> cc:
> Subject: Re: [ls-support] fading out/fading in and uploads
>
>
> Hi Douglas
>
> This defeated me, probably because I'm still very new to Linux. I created
> a launcher and navigated to the directory, but I wasn't sure where to put
> the -d.
>
> Jimmy
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:54:52 +0100, wrote:
>
>> As for the second question, about file uploads, there is a mass import
>> script in this directory:
>>
>> /opt/livesupport/bin/import.sh -d
>>
>> I'm using the development environment, so the import script is in
>>
>> /src/livesupport/src/modules/storageAdmin/bin/import.sh
>>
>> Please be careful, however, because bad metadata from ID3 tags will
> cause
>> problems for you later on; things like quote marks in the tags or other
>> characters, as well as some tags in UTF-16 will also cause trouble and
>> may
>> even cause LiveSupport Studio to crash. We're working on getting to the
>> source of that problem now and would welcome your feedback and
>> experiences
>> with it.
>>
>> Another tip, though, is that you can make a Launcher on your Gnome
>> desktop
>> for the import script. On your desktop, you can choose 'Create Launcher'
>> and then using the 'browse' button, go to the location where your
>> import.sh script is located. You'll have to add the -d for the directory
>> and click the 'Run in Terminal' check box, but then when you drag a
>> folder
>> on to the launcher, it will automatically import the folder in question.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>>
>> douglas
>>
>>
>> =============================================
>> Media Development Loan Fund
>> =============================================
>> Douglas Arellanes
>> Head of Research and Development
>> Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)
>> Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6
>> Czech Republic
>> Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419
>> Mobile: +420 724 073 364
>> http://www.mdlf-camp.net
>> http://www.campware.org
>> =============================================
>> http://www.mdlf.org
>> =============================================
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jimmy Black"
>> Sent by: ls-support-bounces@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
>> 09/14/2006 02:31 PM
>> Please respond to Support mailing list for the LiveSupport software
>> project
>>
>> To: ls-support@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
>> cc:
>> Subject: [ls-support] fading out/fading in and uploads
>>
>>
>> I want to be able to play two music tracks simultaneously, so I can fade
>> one down and the other one up at the same time. How can I do this in
>> livesupport? I only have one soundcard in my laptop.
>>
>> My other query is ... I find uploading music tracks one at a time very
>> slow. Is there any way to upload a whole CD full of tracks, all at once?
>>
>> I'm using Livesupport 1.1 with Ubuntu Dapper
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
>
>
>

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Hi Douglas

I changed my mind and had another go ... this time it worked. I hadn't
inserted a space before the -d ... simple.

So I've pulled in the contents of two or three CDs. Everything seems to go
into the one place, so its not as neat as doing it one by one. It's really
quick, though. I'll play the tracks back over the next few days and report
any problems.

(I'm using the development environment)

Jimmy

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:57:59 +0100, wrote:

> The -d goes after the import.sh, so it should probably look like this:
>
> /opt/livesupport/bin/import.sh -d (if you're using the 1.1 beta)
>
> or /src/livesupport/src/modules/storageAdmin/bin/import.sh -d (if you're
> using the Development Environment)
>
> Make sure the 'open in terminal window' check box is checked, and then
> drag a folder on to your launcher item (I usually use the Gnome VU meter
> icon, by the way) and then it should import.
>
> Let me know if that works for you,
>
>
> douglas
>
> =============================================
> Media Development Loan Fund
> =============================================
> Douglas Arellanes
> Head of Research and Development
> Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)
> Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6
> Czech Republic
> Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419
> Mobile: +420 724 073 364
> http://www.mdlf-camp.net
> http://www.campware.org
> =============================================
> http://www.mdlf.org
> =============================================
>
>
>
>
> "Jimmy Black"
> Sent by: ls-support-bounces@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
> 09/14/2006 09:53 PM
> Please respond to Support mailing list for the LiveSupport software
> project
>
> To: "Support mailing list for the LiveSupport software
> project"
>
> cc:
> Subject: Re: [ls-support] fading out/fading in and uploads
>
>
> Hi Douglas
>
> This defeated me, probably because I'm still very new to Linux. I created
> a launcher and navigated to the directory, but I wasn't sure where to put
> the -d.
>
> Jimmy
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:54:52 +0100, wrote:
>
>> As for the second question, about file uploads, there is a mass import
>> script in this directory:
>>
>> /opt/livesupport/bin/import.sh -d
>>
>> I'm using the development environment, so the import script is in
>>
>> /src/livesupport/src/modules/storageAdmin/bin/import.sh
>>
>> Please be careful, however, because bad metadata from ID3 tags will
> cause
>> problems for you later on; things like quote marks in the tags or other
>> characters, as well as some tags in UTF-16 will also cause trouble and
>> may
>> even cause LiveSupport Studio to crash. We're working on getting to the
>> source of that problem now and would welcome your feedback and
>> experiences
>> with it.
>>
>> Another tip, though, is that you can make a Launcher on your Gnome
>> desktop
>> for the import script. On your desktop, you can choose 'Create Launcher'
>> and then using the 'browse' button, go to the location where your
>> import.sh script is located. You'll have to add the -d for the directory
>> and click the 'Run in Terminal' check box, but then when you drag a
>> folder
>> on to the launcher, it will automatically import the folder in question.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>>
>> douglas
>>
>>
>> =============================================
>> Media Development Loan Fund
>> =============================================
>> Douglas Arellanes
>> Head of Research and Development
>> Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)
>> Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6
>> Czech Republic
>> Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419
>> Mobile: +420 724 073 364
>> http://www.mdlf-camp.net
>> http://www.campware.org
>> =============================================
>> http://www.mdlf.org
>> =============================================
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jimmy Black"
>> Sent by: ls-support-bounces@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
>> 09/14/2006 02:31 PM
>> Please respond to Support mailing list for the LiveSupport software
>> project
>>
>> To: ls-support@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
>> cc:
>> Subject: [ls-support] fading out/fading in and uploads
>>
>>
>> I want to be able to play two music tracks simultaneously, so I can fade
>> one down and the other one up at the same time. How can I do this in
>> livesupport? I only have one soundcard in my laptop.
>>
>> My other query is ... I find uploading music tracks one at a time very
>> slow. Is there any way to upload a whole CD full of tracks, all at once?
>>
>> I'm using Livesupport 1.1 with Ubuntu Dapper
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
>
>
>

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Thanks Douglas

So far I'm simply doing all this on my laptop, but the next project will
be to set up a small network with a central storage server. No doubt I'll
be back in touch then!

Jimmy

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 07:49:14 +0100, wrote:

> Hi Jimmy,
>
> Yes, the files go to the same 'place,' to the station's central storage
> server. You can navigate through the files using search and browse menus,
> adding them either to the Scratchpad, using them directly in Live Mode,
> or
> uploading them to the central Network Hub (if you have one).
>
>
> douglas
>
> =============================================
> Media Development Loan Fund
> =============================================
> Douglas Arellanes
> Head of Research and Development
> Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)
> Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6
> Czech Republic
> Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419
> Mobile: +420 724 073 364
> http://www.mdlf-camp.net
> http://www.campware.org
> =============================================
> http://www.mdlf.org
> =============================================
>
>
>
>
> "Jimmy Black"
> Sent by: ls-support-bounces@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
> 09/15/2006 12:50 AM
> Please respond to Support mailing list for the LiveSupport software
> project
>
> To: "Support mailing list for the LiveSupport software
> project"
>
> cc:
> Subject: Re: [ls-support] fading out/fading in and uploads
>
>
> Hi Douglas
>
> I changed my mind and had another go ... this time it worked. I hadn't
> inserted a space before the -d ... simple.
>
> So I've pulled in the contents of two or three CDs. Everything seems to
> go
> into the one place, so its not as neat as doing it one by one. It's
> really
> quick, though. I'll play the tracks back over the next few days and
> report
> any problems.
>
> (I'm using the development environment)
>
> Jimmy
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:57:59 +0100, wrote:
>
>> The -d goes after the import.sh, so it should probably look like this:
>>
>> /opt/livesupport/bin/import.sh -d (if you're using the 1.1 beta)
>>
>> or /src/livesupport/src/modules/storageAdmin/bin/import.sh -d (if you're
>> using the Development Environment)
>>
>> Make sure the 'open in terminal window' check box is checked, and then
>> drag a folder on to your launcher item (I usually use the Gnome VU meter
>> icon, by the way) and then it should import.
>>
>> Let me know if that works for you,
>>
>>
>> douglas
>>
>> =============================================
>> Media Development Loan Fund
>> =============================================
>> Douglas Arellanes
>> Head of Research and Development
>> Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)
>> Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6
>> Czech Republic
>> Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419
>> Mobile: +420 724 073 364
>> http://www.mdlf-camp.net
>> http://www.campware.org
>> =============================================
>> http://www.mdlf.org
>> =============================================
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jimmy Black"
>> Sent by: ls-support-bounces@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
>> 09/14/2006 09:53 PM
>> Please respond to Support mailing list for the LiveSupport software
>> project
>>
>> To: "Support mailing list for the LiveSupport software
>> project"
>>
>> cc:
>> Subject: Re: [ls-support] fading out/fading in and
> uploads
>>
>>
>> Hi Douglas
>>
>> This defeated me, probably because I'm still very new to Linux. I
> created
>> a launcher and navigated to the directory, but I wasn't sure where to
> put
>> the -d.
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:54:52 +0100, wrote:
>>
>>> As for the second question, about file uploads, there is a mass import
>>> script in this directory:
>>>
>>> /opt/livesupport/bin/import.sh -d
>>>
>>> I'm using the development environment, so the import script is in
>>>
>>> /src/livesupport/src/modules/storageAdmin/bin/import.sh
>>>
>>> Please be careful, however, because bad metadata from ID3 tags will
>> cause
>>> problems for you later on; things like quote marks in the tags or other
>>> characters, as well as some tags in UTF-16 will also cause trouble and
>>> may
>>> even cause LiveSupport Studio to crash. We're working on getting to the
>>> source of that problem now and would welcome your feedback and
>>> experiences
>>> with it.
>>>
>>> Another tip, though, is that you can make a Launcher on your Gnome
>>> desktop
>>> for the import script. On your desktop, you can choose 'Create
> Launcher'
>>> and then using the 'browse' button, go to the location where your
>>> import.sh script is located. You'll have to add the -d for the
> directory
>>> and click the 'Run in Terminal' check box, but then when you drag a
>>> folder
>>> on to the launcher, it will automatically import the folder in
> question.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>>
>>>
>>> douglas
>>>
>>>
>>> =============================================
>>> Media Development Loan Fund
>>> =============================================
>>> Douglas Arellanes
>>> Head of Research and Development
>>> Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)
>>> Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6
>>> Czech Republic
>>> Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419
>>> Mobile: +420 724 073 364
>>> http://www.mdlf-camp.net
>>> http://www.campware.org
>>> =============================================
>>> http://www.mdlf.org
>>> =============================================
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jimmy Black"
>>> Sent by: ls-support-bounces@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
>>> 09/14/2006 02:31 PM
>>> Please respond to Support mailing list for the LiveSupport software
>>> project
>>>
>>> To: ls-support@netfinity-4.mdlf.org
>>> cc:
>>> Subject: [ls-support] fading out/fading in and uploads
>>>
>>>
>>> I want to be able to play two music tracks simultaneously, so I can
> fade
>>> one down and the other one up at the same time. How can I do this in
>>> livesupport? I only have one soundcard in my laptop.
>>>
>>> My other query is ... I find uploading music tracks one at a time very
>>> slow. Is there any way to upload a whole CD full of tracks, all at
> once?
>>>
>>> I'm using Livesupport 1.1 with Ubuntu Dapper
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jimmy
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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One other point about using LiveSupport on laptops, if I may, Jimmy:
LiveSupport is really intended optimally for three sound cards, one for the
live mode output, one for scheduled output and one for previewing in
gLiveSupport (also known as LiveSupport Studio).

Considering that USB sound cards work pretty well under Linux these days
(no problems with drivers and all that) and are cheap, this is the way
we're recommending for stations with low budgets.

Otherwise, in terms of sound card compatibility, if it's compatible with
ALSA, then in all likelihood it will work with LiveSupport. There's a good
compatibility list at the ALSA homepage at
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc.

Hope this helps,

douglas

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Much appreciated

Jimmy

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:53:24 +0100, wrote:

>
> One other point about using LiveSupport on laptops, if I may, Jimmy:
> LiveSupport is really intended optimally for three sound cards, one for
> the
> live mode output, one for scheduled output and one for previewing in
> gLiveSupport (also known as LiveSupport Studio).
>
> Considering that USB sound cards work pretty well under Linux these days
> (no problems with drivers and all that) and are cheap, this is the way
> we're recommending for stations with low budgets.
>
> Otherwise, in terms of sound card compatibility, if it's compatible with
> ALSA, then in all likelihood it will work with LiveSupport. There's a
> good
> compatibility list at the ALSA homepage at
> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> douglas
>
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