Before I make this change in the Studio client, too, I'd like to get a
second opinion. I think people would know what is meant by "talk", and
they would be puzzled by "voice".
Personally, I prefer 'Talk', but I don't feel strongly enough about it to
argue hard against 'Voice'.
I think the rationale behind 'Voice' is that it's more neutral; 'Talk'
refers to a certain kind of program, whereas 'Voice' can be any kind of
spoken info, not just a 'Talk' show.
What is more important to me is that we get users to actually click on the
tab; I'm concerned that it's not appearing prominently enough to let
people know it's there, let alone input the relevant DCMIterms.
But I still prefer talk...
doug
Ferenc Gerlits
10/14/2005 06:18 PM
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Before I make this change in the Studio client, too, I'd like to get a
second opinion. I think people would know what is meant by "talk", and
they would be puzzled by "voice".
'Voice' is general
and more neutral name for audio files (or channels) that contain all
kind of clear 'human' sound signals.
In practice, if it is needed, we can determin more specific categories
and subcategories of the material, such as: talk, singing, speaking
etc.
These names have more descriptive character.
In multi-channel radio production we give more general descriptions for
audio channel names, like: "voice channel, music channel,instrumental
channel, video
channel, fx channel (ambient, atmosphere), master voice channel...",
and in audio signal processing: voice channel processor, voice
control, voice-over processor etc..
You can find something more about common expressions in descriptions of
dolby standard and 5.1 surround technologie.
Of course, we can certainly understand and use the expression 'talk',
but I wanted us to use the opposite word of the 'Music' tab, and that
is 'Voice'.
I don't agree that users will be puzzled with the word 'voice'- I
would rather see that we stick to the usual and common standards. But,
anyway, people can change it in the localizer if they wish, to suit
their local image in radio station.
I would rather put the accent on the 'Main' tab, that considers me
right now. I think we should make it more stronger and more clearer in
functionality for users, because, basically, it should represent
everything other than 'Music' and 'Voice', such as radio commercials,
jingles, etc..
I see Robert's point about voice, now I understand what he's talking
about.
His remarks point to another thing that we're missing right now, which is
a level of classification for items like 'Ad', 'Jingle' 'Liner', 'Station
ID', 'Promo' and the like.
Currently we only provide different icons for a sound file or a playlist.
But a person in the studio has to deal with lots of other items like ads,
jingles and the like. I'd like to see us come up with a better way of
differentiating these files visually.
Robert, what would the complete list of those files include, besides 'Ad',
'Jingle' 'Liner', 'Station ID', and 'Promo'?
Charles, can you think of a way we can present these visually?
doug
Robert Klajn
10/16/2005 10:09 PM
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'Voice' is general and more neutral name for audio files (or channels)
that contain all kind of clear 'human' sound signals.
In practice, if it is needed, we can determin more specific categories and
subcategories of the material, such as: talk, singing, speaking etc.
These names have more descriptive character.
In multi-channel radio production we give more general descriptions for
audio channel names, like: "voice channel, music channel,instrumental
channel, video channel, fx channel (ambient, atmosphere), master voice
channel...",
and in audio signal processing: voice channel processor, voice control,
voice-over processor etc..
You can find something more about common expressions in descriptions of
dolby standard and 5.1 surround technologie.
Of course, we can certainly understand and use the expression 'talk', but
I wanted us to use the opposite word of the 'Music' tab, and that is
'Voice'.
I don't agree that users will be puzzled with the word 'voice'- I would
rather see that we stick to the usual and common standards. But, anyway,
people can change it in the localizer if they wish, to suit their local
image in radio station.
I would rather put the accent on the 'Main' tab, that considers me right
now. I think we should make it more stronger and more clearer in
functionality for users, because, basically, it should represent
everything other than 'Music' and 'Voice', such as radio commercials,
jingles, etc..
Robert
Ferenc Gerlits
10/14/2005 06:18 PM
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Before I make this change in the Studio client, too, I'd like to get a
second opinion. I think people would know what is meant by "talk", and
they would be puzzled by "voice".
OK, I was just double-checking before making a (trivial but) highly
visible change. To me, "talk" is Alistair Cooke, and "voice" is Hayley
Westenra. But I see these words are used differently by radio people.
OK, I was just double-checking before making a (trivial but) highly
visible change. To me, "talk" is Alistair Cooke, and "voice" is Hayley
Westenra. But I see these words are used differently by radio people.
Pop-classical singer (think Andrea Bocelli, only younger, female, and
from New Zealand). It may be cheesy, but she has a great, er, voice.
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