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Hi all,

In an effort to allow others (especially Robert Klajn) access to a newer
version of LiveSupport for testing and documentation, I've made a new
build of the LiveSupport Debian packages.

THIS IS NOT THE RC1 RELEASE. This is a completely unofficial and highly
experimental release. The 'real' release will come with 1.0 RC1 in the
next couple of days. It's simply a snapshot of the CVS from today and
turned into installable Debian packages.

Because these are not part of anything official, the packages are up on my
personal web server, at:

http://www.arellanes.com/livesupport/deb/livesupport-libs_0.9.9a-1_i386.deb
http://www.arellanes.com/livesupport/deb/livesupport-station_0.9.9a-1_i386.deb
http://www.arellanes.com/livesupport/deb/livesupport-studio_0.9.9a-1_i386.deb

Download the files to a local directory, then install them with:

dpkg -i livesupport-libs_0.9.9a-1_i386.deb
dpkg -i livesupport-station_0.9.9a-1_i386.deb
dpkg -i livesupport-studio_0.9.9a-1_i386.deb

If you're running a previous version of a Debian package, like the one on
the Demo/Install CD, it will automatically upgrade to the newest one.

Happy downloading!

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Hi all,

In an effort to allow others (especially Robert Klajn) access to a newer version of LiveSupport for testing and documentation, I've made a new build of the LiveSupport Debian packages.

THIS IS NOT THE RC1 RELEASE. This is a completely unofficial and highly experimental release. The 'real' release will come with 1.0 RC1 in the next couple of days. It's simply a snapshot of the CVS from today and turned into installable Debian packages.

Because these are not part of anything official, the packages are up on my personal web server, at:

http://www.arellanes.com/livesupport/deb/livesupport-libs_0.9.9a-1_i386.deb

http://www.arellanes.com/livesupport/deb/livesupport-station_0.9.9a-1_i386.deb

http://www.arellanes.com/livesupport/deb/livesupport-studio_0.9.9a-1_i386.deb

Download the files to a local directory, then install them with:

dpkg -i livesupport-libs_0.9.9a-1_i386.deb

dpkg -i livesupport-station_0.9.9a-1_i386.deb

dpkg -i livesupport-studio_0.9.9a-1_i386.deb

If you're running a previous version of a Debian package, like the one on the Demo/Install CD, it will automatically upgrade to the newest one.

Happy downloading!

doug

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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> If you're running a previous version of a Debian package, like the one
> on the Demo/Install CD, it will automatically upgrade to the newest one.

What did you base the CD on?

If I make a Gentoo LiveCD with LiveSupport would that be OK?

Stefan

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Hi Stefan,

Our LiveCD is based on Knoppix, but I'd be happy to see LiveCDs based on
other platforms. The main thing is to make sure you get the installer
program and its dependencies. Michael Aschauer can tell you more about it.

The tricky (or trickiest) question on any LiveCD is ensuring the widest
possible hardware detection and support; if a Gentoo CD can deliver
something good, then I'm especially for it.

I'm assuming this would build on your offer to make the Gentoo eBuilds for
LiveSupport? Are those ready somewhere?

doug

Stefan de Konink
06/15/05 04:49 PM
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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> If you're running a previous version of a Debian package, like the one
> on the Demo/Install CD, it will automatically upgrade to the newest one.

What did you base the CD on?

If I make a Gentoo LiveCD with LiveSupport would that be OK?

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Hi Stefan,

Our LiveCD is based on Knoppix, but I'd be happy to see LiveCDs based on other platforms. The main thing is to make sure you get the installer program and its dependencies. Michael Aschauer can tell you more about it.

The tricky (or trickiest) question on any LiveCD is ensuring the widest possible hardware detection and support; if a Gentoo CD can deliver something good, then I'm especially for it.

I'm assuming this would build on your offer to make the Gentoo eBuilds for LiveSupport? Are those ready somewhere?

doug

Stefan de Konink <skinkie@xs4all.nl>

06/15/05 04:49 PM

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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:

> If you're running a previous version of a Debian package, like the one

> on the Demo/Install CD, it will automatically upgrade to the newest one.

What did you base the CD on?

If I make a Gentoo LiveCD with LiveSupport would that be OK?

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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> I'm assuming this would build on your offer to make the Gentoo eBuilds
> for LiveSupport?
Exactly catalyst shouldn't make it too hard to do, but I do want to have
some experience with the different flavors of Livesupport applications.
Also NLS support before boot.

> Are those ready somewhere?
They are still prealpha, currently I'm at the database base
configuration config code.

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One thing you should probably be aware of is that we're trying to include
a populated database for the LiveCD that would include both Creative
Commons-licensed content and playlists, so that users can really use the
system in demo mode. The other thing is to make sure the install program
works on your LiveCD as well.

Michael Aschauer may not be responding, as I understand he's currently
traveling, but he should be back in the next couple of weeks.

doug

Stefan de Konink
06/15/05 05:30 PM
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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> I'm assuming this would build on your offer to make the Gentoo eBuilds
> for LiveSupport?
Exactly catalyst shouldn't make it too hard to do, but I do want to have
some experience with the different flavors of Livesupport applications.
Also NLS support before boot.

> Are those ready somewhere?
They are still prealpha, currently I'm at the database base
configuration config code.

Stefan

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One thing you should probably be aware of is that we're trying to include a populated database for the LiveCD that would include both Creative Commons-licensed content and playlists, so that users can really use the system in demo mode. The other thing is to make sure the install program works on your LiveCD as well.

Michael Aschauer may not be responding, as I understand he's currently traveling, but he should be back in the next couple of weeks.

doug

Stefan de Konink <skinkie@xs4all.nl>

06/15/05 05:30 PM

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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:

> I'm assuming this would build on your offer to make the Gentoo eBuilds

> for LiveSupport?

Exactly catalyst shouldn't make it too hard to do, but I do want to have

some experience with the different flavors of Livesupport applications.

Also NLS support before boot.

> Are those ready somewhere?

They are still prealpha, currently I'm at the database base

configuration config code.

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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> One thing you should probably be aware of is that we're trying to
> include a populated database for the LiveCD that would include both
> Creative Commons-licensed content and playlists, so that users can
> really use the system in demo mode. The other thing is to make sure the
> install program works on your LiveCD as well.

Is that somewhere in a .tar.bz2?

Stefan

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We've given some sample files to Tomas Hlava, who should be able to give
us a better estimate on where that is.

doug

Stefan de Konink
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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> One thing you should probably be aware of is that we're trying to
> include a populated database for the LiveCD that would include both
> Creative Commons-licensed content and playlists, so that users can
> really use the system in demo mode. The other thing is to make sure the
> install program works on your LiveCD as well.

Is that somewhere in a .tar.bz2?

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We've given some sample files to Tomas Hlava, who should be able to give us a better estimate on where that is.

doug

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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:

> One thing you should probably be aware of is that we're trying to

> include a populated database for the LiveCD that would include both

> Creative Commons-licensed content and playlists, so that users can

> really use the system in demo mode. The other thing is to make sure the

> install program works on your LiveCD as well.

Is that somewhere in a .tar.bz2?

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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> We've given some sample files to Tomas Hlava, who should be able to give
> us a better estimate on where that is.

I still want to investigate if it is possible to replace PostgreSQL with
SQLite at least for the Live CD, cds run without swap and if everything
needs to run *be prepared*.

Stefan

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:31:50 +0200 Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> We've given some sample files to Tomas Hlava, who should be able to give
> us a better estimate on where that is.
>
> doug

I have a copy - it's ~27MB tar (bad compression ratio when bzipped)
it's possible to upload it somewhere.

It will be available in Livesupport backup format on CVS in
a very near future.

Tomas Hlava
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Tomas Hlava wrote:
> I have a copy - it's ~27MB tar (bad compression ratio when bzipped)
> it's possible to upload it somewhere.
for the time beeing can you upload it on my ftp?

Stefan

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:55:43 +0200 Stefan de Konink wrote:
> Tomas Hlava wrote:
> > I have a copy - it's ~27MB tar (bad compression ratio when bzipped)
> > it's possible to upload it somewhere.
> for the time beeing can you upload it on my ftp?
>
>
> Stefan

Yes - it's possible, send me ftp://...

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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> In an effort to allow others (especially Robert Klajn) access to a newer
> version of LiveSupport for testing and documentation, I've made a new
> build of the LiveSupport Debian packages.

Would it be possible to get the source packages too?

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The temporary download information is be in Douglas first post
http://www.campware.org/look/read.php?f=12&i=775&t=775

On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 19:22, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
> Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> > In an effort to allow others (especially Robert Klajn) access to a newer
> > version of LiveSupport for testing and documentation, I've made a new
> > build of the LiveSupport Debian packages.
>
> Would it be possible to get the source packages too?

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Hi Michael,

You can also do as I did, and pull down the files from the CVS, then
follow the steps outlined in this document:

http://livesupport.campware.org/public_html/doc/release.html

It's pretty easy, actually. The one thing that isn't documented there is
that you must change the information in the /etc/debian/changelog file to
reflect the updated version number; in my case it was 0.9.9a.

As I don't have access to my Ubuntu box right now (I'm in the process of
traveling to California), I won't be able to do much more until later.

doug

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Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)
Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6
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Frans van Berckel
06/15/2005 07:36 PM
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The temporary download information is be in Douglas first post
http://www.campware.org/look/read.php?f=12&i=775&t=775

On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 19:22, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
> Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> > In an effort to allow others (especially Robert Klajn) access to a
newer
> > version of LiveSupport for testing and documentation, I've made a
new
> > build of the LiveSupport Debian packages.
>
> Would it be possible to get the source packages too?

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Hi Michael,

You can also do as I did, and pull down the files from the CVS, then follow the steps outlined in this document:

http://livesupport.campware.org/public_html/doc/release.html

It's pretty easy, actually. The one thing that isn't documented there is that you must change the information in the /etc/debian/changelog file to reflect the updated version number; in my case it was 0.9.9a.

As I don't have access to my Ubuntu box right now (I'm in the process of traveling to California), I won't be able to do much more until later.

doug

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Douglas Arellanes

Head of Research and Development

Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)

Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6

Czech Republic

Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419

Mobile: +420 724 073 364

http://www.mdlf-camp.net

http://www.campware.org

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http://www.mdlf.org

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Frans van Berckel <fberckel@xs4all.nl>

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The temporary download information is be in Douglas first post

http://www.campware.org/look/read.php?f=12&i=775&t=775

On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 19:22, Michael Schultheiss wrote:

> Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:

> > In an effort to allow others (especially Robert Klajn) access to a newer

> > version of LiveSupport for testing and documentation, I've made a new

> > build of the LiveSupport Debian packages.

>

> Would it be possible to get the source packages too?

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Frans van Berckel wrote:
> The temporary download information is be in Douglas first post
> http://www.campware.org/look/read.php?f=12&i=775&t=775

Those are binary packages only.

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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> You can also do as I did, and pull down the files from the CVS, then
> follow the steps outlined in this document:
>
> http://livesupport.campware.org/public_html/doc/release.html
>
> It's pretty easy, actually. The one thing that isn't documented there is
> that you must change the information in the /etc/debian/changelog file to
> reflect the updated version number; in my case it was 0.9.9a.

Ah - I hadn't seen that page - looks like it has the instructions I
need.

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Please let us know if you manage to get the packages to build; I'm sure
there are others who would appreciate them...

doug

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Head of Research and Development
Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)
Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6
Czech Republic
Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419
Mobile: +420 724 073 364
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Michael Schultheiss
06/15/2005 08:54 PM
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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> You can also do as I did, and pull down the files from the CVS, then
> follow the steps outlined in this document:
>
> http://livesupport.campware.org/public_html/doc/release.html
>
> It's pretty easy, actually. The one thing that isn't documented there
is
> that you must change the information in the /etc/debian/changelog
file to
> reflect the updated version number; in my case it was 0.9.9a.

Ah - I hadn't seen that page - looks like it has the instructions I
need.

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Please let us know if you manage to get the packages to build; I'm sure there are others who would appreciate them...

doug

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Douglas Arellanes

Head of Research and Development

Center for Advanced Media--Prague (CAMP)

Na vinicnich horach 24a/1834, 160 00 Prague 6

Czech Republic

Tel: + 420 2 3333 5356, Fax: +420 2 2431 5419

Mobile: +420 724 073 364

http://www.mdlf-camp.net

http://www.campware.org

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Michael Schultheiss <livesupport@amellus.com>

06/15/2005 08:54 PM

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Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:

> Hi Michael,

>

> You can also do as I did, and pull down the files from the CVS, then

> follow the steps outlined in this document:

>

> http://livesupport.campware.org/public_html/doc/release.html

>

> It's pretty easy, actually. The one thing that isn't documented there is

> that you must change the information in the /etc/debian/changelog file to

> reflect the updated version number; in my case it was 0.9.9a.

Ah - I hadn't seen that page - looks like it has the instructions I

need.

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I'm testing the livesupport deb packages that Michael Schultheiss made
on a debian unstable box. This is as far as i get after manually
resolving a lot of the dependencies but I'm probably missing some other
dependency that keeps it from connecting to postgres... is there a list
of required libs and other packages? I'm also wondering what's going on
with this line:

cat: /opt/livesupport/usr/storageAdmin/bin/php/conf.php.template: No
such file o
r directory
/opt/livesupport/bin/postInstallScheduler.sh: line
392: /opt/livesupport/usr/sto
rageAdmin/bin/php/conf.php: No such file or directory

- Ben Racher

here's the install dump:

video:~# apt-get install livesupport-station
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
livesupport-station is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Setting up livesupport-station (0.9.1-1) ...
Making post-install steps for the LiveSupport scheduler.

Using the following installation parameters:

installation directory: /opt/livesupport
host name: localhost.localdomain
web server port: 80
scheduler port: 3344
database server: localhost
database: LiveSupport
database user: livesupport
database user password: livesupport
apache daemon group: www-data
apache document root: /var/www
broadcast device: /dev/dsp

Checking for required tools...
Exectuable sed found...
Exectuable psql found...
Exectuable php found...
Exectuable pear found...
Exectuable odbcinst found...
Creating database and database user...
ERROR: user "livesupport" already exists
ERROR: database "LiveSupport" already exists
Creating ODBC data source and driver...
Registering LiveSupport ODBC data source...
Customizing configuration files...
cat: /opt/livesupport/usr/storageAdmin/bin/php/conf.php.template: No
such file o
r directory
/opt/livesupport/bin/postInstallScheduler.sh: line
392: /opt/livesupport/usr/sto
rageAdmin/bin/php/conf.php: No such file or directory
Setting up working directories...
Setting up directory permissions...
Creating symlinks...
Initializing database...
DB Error: connect failed

Database connection problem.
Check if database 'LiveSupport' exists with corresponding permissions.
Database access is defined by 'dsn' values in var/conf.php.
DB Error: connect failed
dpkg: error processing livesupport-station (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
livesupport-station

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Benjamin Racher wrote:
> I'm testing the livesupport deb packages that Michael Schultheiss made
> on a debian unstable box. This is as far as i get after manually

wow, great that Michael has made some packages! where can you download
them from?

> resolving a lot of the dependencies but I'm probably missing some other
> dependency that keeps it from connecting to postgres... is there a list
> of required libs and other packages? I'm also wondering what's going on

yes, there is: http://livesupport.campware.org/public_html/doc/install.html

as for the connection issue with postgres, see the Database section in
the above document...

> with this line:
>
> cat: /opt/livesupport/usr/storageAdmin/bin/php/conf.php.template: No
> such file o
> r directory
> /opt/livesupport/bin/postInstallScheduler.sh: line
> 392: /opt/livesupport/usr/sto
> rageAdmin/bin/php/conf.php: No such file or directory

seems strange enough..

can you contact Michael if these required files are indeed in the
packages he built?

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> as for the connection issue with postgres, see the Database section in
> the above document...

hmm.... i dunno... seems like everything should be working fine... the
database and user exists as created by the livesupport installer, all
the odbc packages are installed. i can't imagine what else could be
wrong unless something crucial lies within these missing files.

> > cat: /opt/livesupport/usr/storageAdmin/bin/php/conf.php.template: No
> > such file o
> > r directory
> > /opt/livesupport/bin/postInstallScheduler.sh: line
> > 392: /opt/livesupport/usr/sto
> > rageAdmin/bin/php/conf.php: No such file or directory
>

hopefully, michael will get back home soon. Smile

Ben

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Benjamin Racher wrote:
>
> > as for the connection issue with postgres, see the Database section in
> > the above document...
>
> hmm.... i dunno... seems like everything should be working fine... the
> database and user exists as created by the livesupport installer, all
> the odbc packages are installed. i can't imagine what else could be
> wrong unless something crucial lies within these missing files.
>
> > > cat: /opt/livesupport/usr/storageAdmin/bin/php/conf.php.template: No
> > > such file o
> > > r directory
> > > /opt/livesupport/bin/postInstallScheduler.sh: line
> > > 392: /opt/livesupport/usr/sto
> > > rageAdmin/bin/php/conf.php: No such file or directory
> >
>
> hopefully, michael will get back home soon. Smile

Me being home or away doesn't affect my ability to check e-mail
(although I won't have time to work on the packages until I get home).
I built them following the instructions at
http://livesupport.campware.org/public_html/doc/release.html

FWIW, my build log is available at:

http://dev.amellus.net/livesupport/build.log

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> FWIW, my build log is available at:
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> http://dev.amellus.net/livesupport/build.log

Michael, is this be your today's build.log ?

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Frans van Berckel wrote:
> > FWIW, my build log is available at:
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> > http://dev.amellus.net/livesupport/build.log
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> Michael, is this be your today's build.log ?

No, it's from whenever I built the packages last (a week or two ago
iirc)

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