[campsite-dev] Campsite/Phorum integration
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We are about to finish the improvements to the Campsite/Phorum
connection. This is a list of new features regarding user management
between them, please do questions, comments or give us your opinion
about it, thanks.
Facts:
- When registering a new user through Phorum, only the Phorum user
requested is created. Campsite does not know anything about this
phorum user.
- When registering/creating a Campsite user (aka subscriber, in this
case), a Phorum user is created at the same time too with the same
username/password/email and it is activated by default. This way, the
new user can post either article comments (at Campsite frontend) or
plain forums messages (at Phorum).
- When changing either email or password through Campsite by a user
with privileges to do this, changes are automatically replicated in
Phorum, and viceversa.
- When deleting a user through Campsite, the corresponding Phorum user
is deleted too.
- When deleting user(s) through Phorum, only the Phorum user(s) are deleted.
Mugur, Paul, where the user upgrade script should be placed?
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> Mugur, Paul, where the user upgrade script should be placed?
All upgrade scripts are in implementation/database/upgrade. In this case (2.6.2) you'll have to
put the upgrade scripts in upgrade/2.6.1 since they'll do the upgrade from 2.6.1.
Mugur
--- Holman Romero
> We are about to finish the improvements to the Campsite/Phorum
> connection. This is a list of new features regarding user management
> between them, please do questions, comments or give us your opinion
> about it, thanks.
>
> Facts:
>
> - When registering a new user through Phorum, only the Phorum user
> requested is created. Campsite does not know anything about this
> phorum user.
>
> - When registering/creating a Campsite user (aka subscriber, in this
> case), a Phorum user is created at the same time too with the same
> username/password/email and it is activated by default. This way, the
> new user can post either article comments (at Campsite frontend) or
> plain forums messages (at Phorum).
>
> - When changing either email or password through Campsite by a user
> with privileges to do this, changes are automatically replicated in
> Phorum, and viceversa.
>
> - When deleting a user through Campsite, the corresponding Phorum user
> is deleted too.
>
> - When deleting user(s) through Phorum, only the Phorum user(s) are deleted.
>
>
> Mugur, Paul, where the user upgrade script should be placed?
>
>
> --
> /holman
>
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Hi Holman -
This is great stuff. One question comes to mind: what about existing
users? The upgrade script should probably add existing users to the phorum.
- Paul
On 9/16/06, Holman Romero
>
> We are about to finish the improvements to the Campsite/Phorum
> connection. This is a list of new features regarding user management
> between them, please do questions, comments or give us your opinion
> about it, thanks.
>
> Facts:
>
> - When registering a new user through Phorum, only the Phorum user
> requested is created. Campsite does not know anything about this
> phorum user.
>
> - When registering/creating a Campsite user (aka subscriber, in this
> case), a Phorum user is created at the same time too with the same
> username/password/email and it is activated by default. This way, the
> new user can post either article comments (at Campsite frontend) or
> plain forums messages (at Phorum).
>
> - When changing either email or password through Campsite by a user
> with privileges to do this, changes are automatically replicated in
> Phorum, and viceversa.
>
> - When deleting a user through Campsite, the corresponding Phorum user
> is deleted too.
>
> - When deleting user(s) through Phorum, only the Phorum user(s) are
> deleted.
>
>
> Mugur, Paul, where the user upgrade script should be placed?
>
>
> --
> /holman
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--- Paul Baranowski
> This is great stuff. One question comes to mind: what about existing
> users? The upgrade script should probably add existing users to the phorum.
Yes, he will write an upgrade script to change the db structure and create corresponding phorum
users, I already talked to Holman on messanger.
Mugur
> - Paul
>
> On 9/16/06, Holman Romero
> >
> > We are about to finish the improvements to the Campsite/Phorum
> > connection. This is a list of new features regarding user management
> > between them, please do questions, comments or give us your opinion
> > about it, thanks.
> >
> > Facts:
> >
> > - When registering a new user through Phorum, only the Phorum user
> > requested is created. Campsite does not know anything about this
> > phorum user.
> >
> > - When registering/creating a Campsite user (aka subscriber, in this
> > case), a Phorum user is created at the same time too with the same
> > username/password/email and it is activated by default. This way, the
> > new user can post either article comments (at Campsite frontend) or
> > plain forums messages (at Phorum).
> >
> > - When changing either email or password through Campsite by a user
> > with privileges to do this, changes are automatically replicated in
> > Phorum, and viceversa.
> >
> > - When deleting a user through Campsite, the corresponding Phorum user
> > is deleted too.
> >
> > - When deleting user(s) through Phorum, only the Phorum user(s) are
> > deleted.
> >
> >
> > Mugur, Paul, where the user upgrade script should be placed?
> >
> >
> > --
> > /holman
> >
>
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--- Mugur Rus
> Yes, he will write an upgrade script to change the db structure and create corresponding phorum
> users, I already talked to Holman on messanger.
Besides the great work he already did
Mugur
> > On 9/16/06, Holman Romero
> > >
> > > We are about to finish the improvements to the Campsite/Phorum
> > > connection. This is a list of new features regarding user management
> > > between them, please do questions, comments or give us your opinion
> > > about it, thanks.
> > >
> > > Facts:
> > >
> > > - When registering a new user through Phorum, only the Phorum user
> > > requested is created. Campsite does not know anything about this
> > > phorum user.
> > >
> > > - When registering/creating a Campsite user (aka subscriber, in this
> > > case), a Phorum user is created at the same time too with the same
> > > username/password/email and it is activated by default. This way, the
> > > new user can post either article comments (at Campsite frontend) or
> > > plain forums messages (at Phorum).
> > >
> > > - When changing either email or password through Campsite by a user
> > > with privileges to do this, changes are automatically replicated in
> > > Phorum, and viceversa.
> > >
> > > - When deleting a user through Campsite, the corresponding Phorum user
> > > is deleted too.
> > >
> > > - When deleting user(s) through Phorum, only the Phorum user(s) are
> > > deleted.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mugur, Paul, where the user upgrade script should be placed?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > /holman
> > >
> >
>
>
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i just commited the Campsite/Phorum connection stuff.
you need to follow these indications in order to get Campsite and
Phorum running side-by-side with the new features:
1- rename or, even better, copy
implementation/management/include/phorum/include/db/config.php.sample
to implementation/management/include/phorum/include/db/config.php
and change the db config values to fit your installation.
NOTE: this first step should be skipped if you already has phorum
installed and running well.
2- edit implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum_settings.php
to fit your installation. variables to be set are $PHORUM_DIR and
$PHORUM_ALT_DBCONFIG
3- create three symlinks at the html public directory like this:
$ cd /path/to/your/campsite/html/publicdir/
$ ln -s /path/to/your/campsite/installdir/implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum.php
phorum.php
$ ln -s /path/to/your/campsite/installdir/implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum_admin.php
phorum_admin.php
$ ln -s /path/to/your/campsite/installdir/implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum_settings.php
phorum_settings.php
that is all. i know that we need to create the symlinks automatically
at installation time but let us do it so, so far.
you can access to phorum by going to:
// phorum public pages
http://your.campsite.url/phorum.php
// phorum administration
http://your.campsite.url/phorum_admin.php
try actions:
- create Campsite subscribers and see whether they are created at
Phorum, try to login to Phorum and post
- update either or both email or/and password for a user through
Campsite, it should take effect at Phorum.
- delelte user(s) from Campsite, see what is happening at Phorum, and viceversa
- just play more...
and give us your valuable feedback, thanks.
On 9/17/06, Mugur Rus
> --- Mugur Rus
> > Yes, he will write an upgrade script to change the db structure and create corresponding phorum
> > users, I already talked to Holman on messanger.
> Besides the great work he already did
>
> Mugur
>
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Hi Holman,
Please apply the same changes to the trunk.
Mugur
--- Holman Romero
> i just commited the Campsite/Phorum connection stuff.
>
> you need to follow these indications in order to get Campsite and
> Phorum running side-by-side with the new features:
>
> 1- rename or, even better, copy
> implementation/management/include/phorum/include/db/config.php.sample
> to implementation/management/include/phorum/include/db/config.php
> and change the db config values to fit your installation.
>
> NOTE: this first step should be skipped if you already has phorum
> installed and running well.
>
> 2- edit implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum_settings.php
> to fit your installation. variables to be set are $PHORUM_DIR and
> $PHORUM_ALT_DBCONFIG
>
> 3- create three symlinks at the html public directory like this:
>
> $ cd /path/to/your/campsite/html/publicdir/
> $ ln -s
> /path/to/your/campsite/installdir/implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum.php
> phorum.php
> $ ln -s
>
/path/to/your/campsite/installdir/implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum_admin.php
> phorum_admin.php
> $ ln -s
>
/path/to/your/campsite/installdir/implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum_settings.php
> phorum_settings.php
>
> that is all. i know that we need to create the symlinks automatically
> at installation time but let us do it so, so far.
>
> you can access to phorum by going to:
> // phorum public pages
> http://your.campsite.url/phorum.php
> // phorum administration
> http://your.campsite.url/phorum_admin.php
>
> try actions:
>
> - create Campsite subscribers and see whether they are created at
> Phorum, try to login to Phorum and post
> - update either or both email or/and password for a user through
> Campsite, it should take effect at Phorum.
> - delelte user(s) from Campsite, see what is happening at Phorum, and viceversa
> - just play more...
>
> and give us your valuable feedback, thanks.
>
>
>
> On 9/17/06, Mugur Rus
> > --- Mugur Rus
> > > Yes, he will write an upgrade script to change the db structure and create corresponding
> phorum
> > > users, I already talked to Holman on messanger.
> > Besides the great work he already did
> >
> > Mugur
> >
>
> --
> /holman
>
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a couple of questions to clarify how campsite/phorum integration should work:
think of a user registering through phorum. it will be a only phorum
user. should he be able to look at article comments/posts in phorum
and post to it even when it is not a campsite subscriber?
then, what to do in that case?
- don't show him/her forum threads linked to campsite articles? show
- show him/her threads but dont let him/her post to them?
the implementation that i commited allows a non-campsite subscriber
post comments to threads linked to articles through phorum.
i talked to Mugur about this, he told me that we could _hide_ article
threads to only phorum users in phorum and empower to campsite
subscribers to post through phorum (as it already does).
let me know your thoughts on this. thanks.
/holman
On 9/18/06, Mugur Rus
> Hi Holman,
>
> Please apply the same changes to the trunk.
>
> Mugur
>
> --- Holman Romero
> > i just commited the Campsite/Phorum connection stuff.
> >
> > you need to follow these indications in order to get Campsite and
> > Phorum running side-by-side with the new features:
> >
> > 1- rename or, even better, copy
> > implementation/management/include/phorum/include/db/config.php.sample
> > to implementation/management/include/phorum/include/db/config.php
> > and change the db config values to fit your installation.
> >
> > NOTE: this first step should be skipped if you already has phorum
> > installed and running well.
> >
> > 2- edit implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum_settings.php
> > to fit your installation. variables to be set are $PHORUM_DIR and
> > $PHORUM_ALT_DBCONFIG
> >
> > 3- create three symlinks at the html public directory like this:
> >
> > $ cd /path/to/your/campsite/html/publicdir/
> > $ ln -s
> > /path/to/your/campsite/installdir/implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum.php
> > phorum.php
> > $ ln -s
> >
> /path/to/your/campsite/installdir/implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum_admin.php
> > phorum_admin.php
> > $ ln -s
> >
> /path/to/your/campsite/installdir/implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum_settings.php
> > phorum_settings.php
> >
> > that is all. i know that we need to create the symlinks automatically
> > at installation time but let us do it so, so far.
> >
> > you can access to phorum by going to:
> > // phorum public pages
> > http://your.campsite.url/phorum.php
> > // phorum administration
> > http://your.campsite.url/phorum_admin.php
> >
> > try actions:
> >
> > - create Campsite subscribers and see whether they are created at
> > Phorum, try to login to Phorum and post
> > - update either or both email or/and password for a user through
> > Campsite, it should take effect at Phorum.
> > - delelte user(s) from Campsite, see what is happening at Phorum, and viceversa
> > - just play more...
> >
> > and give us your valuable feedback, thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/17/06, Mugur Rus
> > > --- Mugur Rus
> > > > Yes, he will write an upgrade script to change the db structure and create corresponding
> > phorum
> > > > users, I already talked to Holman on messanger.
> > > Besides the great work he already did
> > >
> > > Mugur
> > >
> >
> > --
> > /holman
> >
>
>
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Here are some quick answers:a couple of questions to clarify how campsite/phorum integration should work:think of a user registering through phorum. it will be a only phorumuser. should he be able to look at article comments/posts in phorumand post to it even when it is not a campsite subscriber?ST: as long as phorum-only user's comments can be subject to moderation, or even better if it is possible to differentiate between phorum-only and campsite subscribers regarding moderation (e.g. campsite subscribers can post without moderation, phorum users can't -- or whatever combination of the two), I have no problem them looking or posting at the campsite-generated threads.then, what to do in that case?- don't show him/her forum threads linked to campsite articles? show- show him/her threads but dont let him/her post to themST: I think there is no need to hide anything, unless someone doesn't want to use the combination of commenting and phorum (there are some unenlightened beings among us, i suppose
, then hiding may be useful (i.e. you could use the phorum engine to drive the comments, without really showing them to the phorum-only fanatics). the implementation that i commited allows a non-campsite subscriberpost comments to threads linked to articles through phorum. ST: I think this should do the trick for now. I'd like to hear more from the MOW people and other implementers.On 9/18/06, Mugur Rus <mugur1973@yahoo.com> wrote:> Hi Holman,>> Please apply the same changes to the trunk.>> Mugur>> --- Holman Romero <holman.romero@gmail.com> wrote:> > i just commited the Campsite/Phorum connection stuff.> >> > you need to follow these indications in order to get Campsite and> > Phorum running side-by-side with the new features:> >> > 1- rename or, even better, copy> > implementation/management/include/phorum/include/db/config.php.sample> > to implementation/management/include/phorum/include/db/config.php> > and change the db config values to fit your installation.> >> > NOTE: this first step should be skipped if you already has phorum> > installed and running well.> >> > 2- edit implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum_settings.php> > to fit your installation. variables to be set are $PHORUM_DIR and> > $PHORUM_ALT_DBCONFIG> >> > 3- create three symlinks at the html public directory like this:> >> > $ cd /path/to/your/campsite/html/publicdir/> > $ ln -s> > /path/to/your/campsite/installdir/implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum.php> > phorum.php> > $ ln -s> >> /path/to/your/campsite/installdir/implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum_admin.php> > phorum_admin.php> > $ ln -s> >> /path/to/your/campsite/installdir/implementation/management/include/phorum/portable/phorum_settings.php> > phorum_settings.php> >> > that is all. i know that we need to create the symlinks automatically> > at installation time but let us do it so, so far.> >> > you can access to phorum by going to:> > // phorum public pages> > http://your.campsite.url/phorum.php> > // phorum administration> > http://your.campsite.url/phorum_admin.php> >> > try actions:> >> > - create Campsite subscribers and see whether they are created at> > Phorum, try to login to Phorum and post> > - update either or both email or/and password for a user through> > Campsite, it should take effect at Phorum.> > - delelte user(s) from Campsite, see what is happening at Phorum, and viceversa> > - just play more...> >> > and give us your valuable feedback, thanks.> >> >> >> > On 9/17/06, Mugur Rus <mugur1973@yahoo.com> wrote:> > > --- Mugur Rus <mugur1973@yahoo.com> wrote:> > > > Yes, he will write an upgrade script to change the db structure and create corresponding> > phorum> > > > users, I already talked to Holman on messanger.> > > Besides the great work he already did :)> > >> > > Mugur> > >> >> > --> > /holman> >>>> __________________________________________________> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around> http://mail.yahoo.com>--/holman -
Holman Romero wrote:
> a couple of questions to clarify how campsite/phorum integration
> should work:
>
> think of a user registering through phorum. it will be a only phorum
> user. should he be able to look at article comments/posts in phorum
> and post to it even when it is not a campsite subscriber?
Yes, this is fine. Their permissions can be controlled through the
Phorum interface - what you implemented is fine.
>
> then, what to do in that case?
> - don't show him/her forum threads linked to campsite articles? show
They should be able to see the Campsite threads.
> - show him/her threads but dont let him/her post to them?
General posting permissions will be controlled through Phorum - as you
implemented this, it's fine.
> the implementation that i commited allows a non-campsite subscriber
> post comments to threads linked to articles through phorum.
Great - sounds like it is done!
- Paul
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