Ok, lets delay the beta till wednesday. Mugur, still waiting to hear
your input on this...will you be done by wednesday?



Peter Hartman wrote:
> Paul, unfortunately I'm out of town this weekend for my conference, as
> you know. I'll get to the bugs related to ATs on Monday morning /
> Sunday night.
>
> I finished up the bottom half of the checklist in both IE and Firefox.
> I was not able to do the top half in time before I left, although I
> had wanted to.
>
> Good luck!
>
> On 6/8/06, Paul Baranowski wrote:
>> Lets shoot to release Campsite 2.6 BETA on monday, as well as a call to
>> arms for the localizers. Hopfully we can release later in the week -
>> thursday or friday. We hope to coordinate the release with the
>> announcement of the support contracts, so we might delay the release
>> even if it is "done".
>>
>> This means we want to try to squash all known bugs by Monday morning, as
>> well as the testing checklist completed for both firefox and IE. I'll
>> be working over the weekend to make this happen.
>>
>> - Paul
>>
>>
>>
>
>

As far as the remaining tickets go, sounds good. 

One big question - it sounds like you are working on the 3.0 PHP
template engine - and the specs arent even done!  At least as far as I
know?  You sent out some specs a while ago, I gave you feedback, and
then no further word from you which I assumed meant you werent working
on it.  Also, those were *very* partial specs you sent out.  There is
still a ton to discuss about it including syntax, how it will be
integrated into Smarty, how Smarty can be changed to allow better error
reporting, how caching will be done, will it be possible to turn
everything into static pages, how to make it so they can directly
access all data in the database, are we going to get rid of those EDIT
statements, how to integrate PHP, etc.  All of this should be placed on
the wiki as an evolving specification.  If you are working on it, then
the code should be checked in as a branch.  Everything should be an
open process, so that everyone sees what everyone else is doing.  How
come this isnt happening? 

- Paul



Mugur Rus wrote:
Hi Paul,

I assigned the ticket 1704 - Document the subscription by language
feature - to you, I don't have time to do it, have to finish with 2.6
asap because:
- I have to do some urgent work for MDLF's loan management application
- it will take 1 week
- I have to get back to the PHP template engine asap, we're already
late here

If I keep working on 2.6 I won't be able to recover the time lost for
3.0.

Regarding 2.6, I did all the other tickets that were assigned to me
except:
- 2037 - Preview function is broken with multiple publications - it will be done by Tuesday morning
- 2034 - Add ability to set topic by ID and show topic ID in the
template language - it will
be done by Tuesday morning
- 1832 - Demo template README doesn't tell you to restart template
engine - reassigned it to
Peter (see the comment)

Mugur

Paul Baranowski <paulbaranowski@gmail.com> wrote:

Ok, lets delay the beta till wednesday. Mugur, still waiting to hear
your input on this...will you be done by wednesday?

Peter Hartman wrote:
> Paul, unfortunately I'm out of town this weekend for my
conference, as
> you know. I'll get to the bugs related to ATs on Monday morning /
> Sunday night.
>
> I finished up the bottom half of the checklist in both IE and
Firefox.
> I was not able to do the top half in time before I left, although I
> had wanted to.
>
> Good luck!
>
> On 6/8/06, Paul Baranowski wrote:
>> Lets shoot to release Campsite 2.6 BETA on monday, as well as
a call to
>> arms for the localizers. Hopfully we can release later in the
week -
>> thursday or friday. We hope to coordinate the release with the
>> announcement of the support contracts, so we might delay the
release
>> even if it is "done".
>>
>> This means we want to try to squash all known bugs by Monday
morning, as
>> well as the testing checklist completed for both firefox and
IE. I'll
>> be working over the weekend to make this happen.
>>
>> - Paul
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Sorry about that, I misinterpreted that you getting back to the PHP
template engine meant you had already started working on it.  I didnt
mean to put any more stress into your life!  As far as the process
goes, I was thinking that we should post the design on the wiki, and
update it as it evolved.  Otherwise, if someone posts a comment and we
agree that its a good idea, but it doesnt go back into the spec, we
wont know what we are implementing.  So thats the only remaining
thing.  Sorry about the confusion!

- Paul


Mugur Rus wrote:
Paul, I said I would start working on the PHP template
engine, which means I didn't work on it for a while. The *very* partial
specs I sent were all the work I could do on the template engine before
starting the work on 2.6 - comments and many other new tickets that
weren't planned for me. Not that I'm complaining, but just in case you
want to ask what did I do in all this time. And regarding the time I
spend on Campsite work, I'm sorry if I'm not up to your demands but
unlike you I have a family, a small child and maybe a few more problems
to take care of. Anyway, don't worry, I only ask from Sava for the
amount I earned - and he can confirm it - not more, so I'm not
depleting the Campsite funds for nothing.

I sent my suggestions to the list and as I remember I answered to your
suggestions - also on the list - so I don't know what's not open about
it.

Regarding the Edit statements, as I said in another email, we don't
need to get rid of them: the user is able to use them of write the
input fields manually and I already documented this (see
http://code.campware.org/manuals/campsite/2.6/index.php?id=105 at the
bottom). So it seems to me that I did implement your suggestion.

Regards,
Mugur

Paul Baranowski <paulbaranowski@gmail.com> wrote:



As far as the remaining tickets go, sounds good. 

One big question - it sounds like you are working on the 3.0 PHP
template engine - and the specs arent even done!  At least as far as I
know?  You sent out some specs a while ago, I gave you feedback, and
then no further word from you which I assumed meant you werent working
on it.  Also, those were *very* partial specs you sent out.  There is
still a ton to discuss about it including syntax, how it will be
integrated into Smarty, how Smarty can be changed to allow better error
reporting, how caching will be done, will it be possible to turn
everything into static pages, how to make it so they can directly
access all data in the database, are we going to get rid of those EDIT
statements, how to integrate PHP, etc.  All of this should be placed on
the wiki as an evolving specification.  If you are working on it, then
the code should be checked in as a branch.  Everything should be an
open process, so that everyone sees what everyone else is doing.  How
come this isnt happening? 

- Paul

Mugur Rus wrote:
Hi Paul,

I assigned the ticket 1704 - Document the subscription by language
feature - to you, I don't have time to do it, have to finish with 2.6
asap because:
- I have to do some urgent work for MDLF's loan management application
- it will take 1 week
- I have to get back to the PHP template engine asap, we're already
late here

If I keep working on 2.6 I won't be able to recover the time lost for
3.0.

Regarding 2.6, I did all the other tickets that were assigned to me
except:
- 2037 - Preview function is broken with multiple publications - it will be done by Tuesday morning
- 2034 - Add ability to set topic by ID and show topic ID in the
template language - it will
be done by Tuesday morning
- 1832 - Demo template README doesn't tell you to restart template
engine - reassigned it to
Peter (see the comment)

Mugur

Paul Baranowski <paulbaranowski@gmail.com>
wrote:

Ok, lets delay the beta till wednesday. Mugur, still waiting to hear
your input on this...will you be done by wednesday?

Peter Hartman wrote:
> Paul, unfortunately I'm out of town this weekend for my
conference, as
> you know. I'll get to the bugs related to ATs on Monday morning /
> Sunday night.
>
> I finished up the bottom half of the checklist in both IE and
Firefox.
> I was not able to do the top half in time before I left, although I
> had wanted to.
>
> Good luck!
>
> On 6/8/06, Paul Baranowski wrote:
>> Lets shoot to release Campsite 2.6 BETA on monday, as well as
a call to
>> arms for the localizers. Hopfully we can release later in the
week -
>> thursday or friday. We hope to coordinate the release with the
>> announcement of the support contracts, so we might delay the
release
>> even if it is "done".
>>
>> This means we want to try to squash all known bugs by Monday
morning, as
>> well as the testing checklist completed for both firefox and
IE. I'll
>> be working over the weekend to make this happen.
>>
>> - Paul




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