[campsite-dev] A good name for 'unplaced' articles
  • We are looking for a good term to describe articles that have not yet
    been placed into a publication/issue/section. Is there a standard term
    for such a thing? Words that come to mind:

    unplaced
    uncategorized
    unassigned
    without location
    pending layout
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  • In my opinion this should be related to workflow.
    therefore the best would be to introduce us new workflow and changes
    prior naming them.

    In my eyes the most important status of the article is:
    1) New (editor never saw it)
    2) Submited (editor saw it and finished its corrections)
    3) Used (article is in the publication somewhere, but not published)
    4) Published (article is on site)

    What I find very confusing at this moment is "published" on articles and
    issues, where these two states should be more dynamic. For example the
    article is published, but the issue not, In this case I would say
    Article is used and it will change to published only if the issue is
    published.

    I would not use the word assigned for an article, as it does not
    describe the situation.

    And we come to a point if the articles can be used several times. In
    that case you might wish to use different words.

    Ondra

    On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 13:43 -0500, Paul Baranowski wrote:
    > We are looking for a good term to describe articles that have not yet
    > been placed into a publication/issue/section. Is there a standard term
    > for such a thing? Words that come to mind:
    >
    > unplaced
    > uncategorized
    > unassigned
    > without location
    > pending layout
    >
  • Ondro, As you know, we will be expanding our workflow (to n-stages) after we have a PHP parser (your point about articicles with Published status in yet unpublished issues could be addressed before, Mugur/Paul, please correct me if I am wrong). As of 2.5, users will be able to create (status: New) and submit (status: Submitted) articles without having to place them in a publication/issue/section. The purpose of this is to shorten the training time and input for stringers. So what we need right at this moment is to come up with is a plain-English, non-geeky name for articles that are not yet placed in the standard Campsite structure. "Unassigned" is not good, because in the future, that term could be used for assigning articles to editors or journalists (in our n-stage workflow). "Unplaced" sounds weird"Uncategorized" is somewhat misleading (because you are categorizing content with Topics, for example).So let's hear some ideas.Best,SavaOndra Koutek <kouteko@tol.org>02/24/2006 08:24 PMPlease respond to campsite-dev To: campsite-dev@campware.org cc: bcc: Subject: Re: [campsite-dev] A good name for 'unplaced' articles In my opinion this should be related to workflow.therefore the best would be to introduce us new workflow and changesprior naming them.In my eyes the most important status of the article is:1) New (editor never saw it)2) Submited (editor saw it and finished its corrections)3) Used (article is in the publication somewhere, but not published)4) Published (article is on site)What I find very confusing at this moment is "published" on articles andissues, where these two states should be more dynamic. For example thearticle is published, but the issue not, In this case I would sayArticle is used and it will change to published only if the issue ispublished.I would not use the word assigned for an article, as it does notdescribe the situation.And we come to a point if the articles can be used several times. Inthat case you might wish to use different words.OndraOn Fri, 2006-02-24 at 13:43 -0500, Paul Baranowski wrote:> We are looking for a good term to describe articles that have not yet> been placed into a publication/issue/section.  Is there a standard term> for such a thing?  Words that come to mind:>> unplaced> uncategorized> unassigned> without location> pending layout>
  • yes I know. I simply tried to say, that the feature is great, but if you
    wish to name it, keep the new workflow in mind, so that you need not to
    rename it later.
    And my description of workflow was only an example.

    By the way, the nstep workflow is nice, but it shall be applied after
    the article is put to the system (the first step) and you need to have
    at least first step fixed. So my question was more like:
    Will all new articles get to same workflow place (new unplaced article)
    and than continue the workflow, or you enable people to jump in workflow
    (new article can be placed when created).

    And this question was in my eyes related to naming the article state,
    because each situation might be described in different words.

    Ondra

    On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 03:37 +0100, sava.tatic@mdlf.org wrote:
    > As you know, we will be expanding our workflow (to n-stages) after we
    > have a PHP parser (your point about articicles with Published status
    > in yet unpublished issues could be addressed before, Mugur/Paul,
    > please correct me if I am wrong).
  • At 19:43 24.02.2006, Paul Baranowski wrote:
    >We are looking for a good term to describe articles that have not yet
    >been placed into a publication/issue/section. Is there a standard term
    >for such a thing? Words that come to mind:

    orphaned
    in progress
    scratchpad
    sketch
    floating
    free

    >unplaced
    >uncategorized
    >unassigned
    >without location
    >pending layout


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  • Below is the word from David Brewer, a newsroom guru.

    Let's discuss further.

    Sava
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    Hi Sava,

    Well all written content is usually called 'copy' in the UK.

    If it is not placed, I would think the term 'holding copy' might work, or
    'unassigned copy'.

    You can't really use the 'wires' terminology, because that suggests an
    organised feed or supplier.

    Having said that, you have the name there yourself 'stringers', You could
    call it 'stringers' or 'stringers' copy'.

    Dave

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    Hi Dave,

    I need your help regarding a name for a new feature in Campsite. Namely, to
    streamline work for stringers, we are now offering the possibility to
    Campsite-powered websites to create articles without inserting them into
    the publication/issue/section structure.

    So we need a name for those non-allocated, unplaced, floating, free
    articles. What would you call the articles/stories that have not yet been
    assigned to a desk or section? There must be a proper trade term, but I
    can't think of it.

    Any ideas?

    Cheers,

    Sava







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    At 19:43 24.02.2006, Paul Baranowski wrote:
    >We are looking for a good term to describe articles that have not yet
    >been placed into a publication/issue/section. Is there a standard term
    >for such a thing? Words that come to mind:

    orphaned
    in progress
    scratchpad
    sketch
    floating
    free

    >unplaced
    >uncategorized
    >unassigned
    >without location
    >pending layout


    Micz Flor - micz@mi.cz

    content and media development http://mi.cz
    --------------------------------------------------------
    http://www.campware.org -- http://www.suemi.de
    http://www.redaktionundalltag.de
    --------------------------------------------------------





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  • Paul, Sava, all,

    >>We are looking for a good term to describe articles that have not yet
    >>been placed into a publication/issue/section. Is there a standard term
    >>for such a thing? Words that come to mind:

    I'm not a native English speaker, but "draft" could also be a possible
    description for an unassigned article.

    Best regards,

    Armando
  • Not in fact, draft means something not finished. IMHO articles should be
    finished, corrected and than placed to the structure and published.

    Ondra

    On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 11:49 +0100, Armando Ramos wrote:
    > Paul, Sava, all,
    >
    > >>We are looking for a good term to describe articles that have not yet
    > >>been placed into a publication/issue/section. Is there a standard term
    > >>for such a thing? Words that come to mind:
    >
    > I'm not a native English speaker, but "draft" could also be a possible
    > description for an unassigned article.
    >
    > Best regards,
    >
    > Armando
    >
    >
    >
  • Ondra Koutek wrote:

    > Not in fact, draft means something not finished. IMHO articles should be
    > finished, corrected and than placed to the structure and published.

    Maybe we are talking about different workflows, but let me elaborate my
    proposal. An article not placed into the structure will not be
    accessible, at least in principle, to the person responsible for each
    section. As this person will probably make changes, you can't consider
    an unplaced article 'finished'.

    So a possible workflow would be:

    Draft -> First version of an article (location: limbo)
    New -> The article reaches its section (location: section)
    Submitted -> The section editor deems it suitable for publication
    (location: issue)
    Published -> The issue editor publishes it (location: publication)

    Best regards,

    Armando