Hi Braja

There is a configuration directive that you can set to turn off
automatic adding of all articles from the current issue.

The articles in the current issue are defined by the content of the RSS
feed - you set a URL in the config file. Or a bespoke system can be
implemented using the printboxinterface extension class.

My implementation deliberately steered clear of direct interfacing with
campsite, however this would be simple via the extension class I
mentioned, or else if you have an RSS feed system in place or planned
then I would suggest that as the preferred method.

JP

Aleksandar Brajanoski wrote:

>this is great, great work john.
>
>i have two things.
>- the default behavior should in my opinion be related to individual
>articles, not the whole issue/page/section (how does it work anyway -
>with issue Id, or with all the links to article.tpl from the home
>page?). i mean, adding all articles is fine, and should be there
>somewhere, but i would like to have an icon next to each article that
>would allow me to add it to the printbox. when article is added to the
>box, the icon disappears - this is maybe some client side scripting for
>future development.
>- second, not really the techie stuff but: because you can DISPLAY (open
>the page) from the Printbox, and not just PRINT, the thing should be
>called something like Prints/Clippings (box), or something like that.
>
>thank you,
>braja
>
>
>
>sava.tatic@mdlf.org wrote:
>
>
>>Dear All,
>>
>>The grand idea finally came to fruition a while ago (sorry for not
>>passing this on earlier). John has cobbled up the famed print box for us.
>>Being his usual self, he took it a step further, whereby the thing could
>>have its independent life.
>>
>>I think that we should first release it as a Campsite feature, and
>>afterwards donate it to the world at large. I am not too sure about John's
>>feelings re: this, but heck, this was also my idea to begin with. So I'll
>>do my best. The reason for delaying the independent life to the print box
>>for a month or so is that I would like to enable all Campsite-based
>>publications to get a head start in implementation, before the thing
>>becomes (somewhat) commonplace (well, OK, I don't really see it spreading
>>like wildfire, but heck, let's get our community some exclusivity for a
>>little while).
>>
>>So please go ahead and test it and send all suggestions to the campsite-DEV
>>list, because John is not part of the core list. If you want to discuss the
>>release strategy, write to the campsite-CORE.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Sava
>>----- Forwarded by Sava Tatic/Mdlf on 12/03/04 01:49 PM -----
>>
>> John Pye
>> , Micz Flor
>> ols.com> cc:
>> Subject: printbox-0.1 ?
>> 11/25/04 08:55 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi Sava, Micz
>>
>>Here is a first version of printbox with all the features working far as
>>I can tell.
>>
>>I've installed it at http://pye.dyndns.org/printbox/google.html, and the
>>source is attached.
>>
>>I've set it up to work nicely with bbc.co.uk's newsfeed, so you can see
>>how the 'add current edition' stuff works now. At the moment it's set up
>>to add all articles from the current edition by default, this can be
>>turned off and made a deliberate option. (There are some sports articles
>>in the BBC feed that don't print out so nicely but most are fine, I just
>>haven't set it all up 100%)
>>
>>It also knows how to automatically convert TOLs articles into printable
>>form, and decko articles too.
>>
>>You can also now remove individual items from the printbox and also
>>print just a subset of the items.
>>
>>It works on windows with Moz 1.7, IE 6 and Opera 7 and Lynx. I also
>>checked it works in Mozilla with javascript turned off. It would be
>>worth testing it on a Mac, I don't have access to one though. Also needs
>>testing again in Linux.
>>
>>Hopefully the instructions there are straighforward enough that you can
>>get it working with Campsite quite easily. Note that I made some
>>comments in the README.txt about authentication. I think that could be
>>an issue possibly.
>>
>>I wanted to hand something over now, because I'm going to be away next
>>week and busy till the end of the weekend probably, and you said it was
>>a rush job. But if I can spare some more time though to help getting it
>>installed etc, I will.
>>
>>JP
>>
>>(See attached file: printbox-0.1.zip)
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Name: printbox-0.1.zip
>> printbox-0.1.zip Type: Zip Compressed Data (application/x-zip-compressed)
>> Encoding: base64
>>
>>
>
>
>

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The print box or print cart is an OK working name. And it may even stick. I
could certainly live with it, but if anyone has better suggestions, please
speak up.

Sava



John Pye
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Oops forgot to comment on the latter comment you made...

> Aleksandar Brajanoski wrote:
>
>> this is great, great work john.
>>
>> - second, not really the techie stuff but: because you can DISPLAY (open
>> the page) from the Printbox, and not just PRINT, the thing should be
>> called something like Prints/Clippings (box), or something like that.
>
I don't mind what you call it really. The session in which the stuff is
stored is limited, so it's no good for storing stuff longer term, so I
wouldn't call it a 'clippings box' because to me that suggests it lasts
a bit longer. Maybe that's something that needs to be added though, I
don't know.

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I'd say to call it the "printing basket" or the "printing cart", but not
the "print cart"

doug






John Pye
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Hi all

I'm going to be off-air for a few weeks so if anyone has any issues with
printbox please let me know asap (by friday at latest). Hopefully you
have been able to take a look at it.

JP

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sava.tatic@mdlf.org wrote:

>The print box or print cart is an OK working name. And it may even stick.
I
>could certainly live with it, but if anyone has better suggestions,
please
>speak up.
>
>Sava
>
>
>
> John Pye
> campsite-dev@campware.org
> ols.com> cc:
> Subject: Re:
[campsite-dev] Re: [campsite-core] printbox-0.1 is here, almost
> 12/06/04 01:41 PM
> Please respond to
> campsite-dev
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Oops forgot to comment on the latter comment you made...
>
>
>
>>Aleksandar Brajanoski wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>this is great, great work john.
>>>
>>>- second, not really the techie stuff but: because you can DISPLAY
(open
>>>the page) from the Printbox, and not just PRINT, the thing should be
>>>called something like Prints/Clippings (box), or something like that.
>>>
>>>
>I don't mind what you call it really. The session in which the stuff is
>stored is limited, so it's no good for storing stuff longer term, so I
>wouldn't call it a 'clippings box' because to me that suggests it lasts
>a bit longer. Maybe that's something that needs to be added though, I
>don't know.
>
>JP
>
>
>
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I'd say to call it the "printing basket" or the "printing cart", but not the "print cart"



doug

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Hi all



I'm going to be off-air for a few weeks so if anyone has any issues with

printbox please let me know asap (by friday at latest). Hopefully you

have been able to take a look at it.



JP



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sava.tatic@mdlf.org wrote:



>The print box or print cart is an OK working name. And it may even stick. I

>could certainly live with it, but if anyone has better suggestions, please

>speak up.

>

>Sava

>

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>Oops forgot to comment on the latter comment you made...

>

>  

>

>>Aleksandar Brajanoski wrote:

>>

>>    

>>

>>>this is great, great work john.

>>>

>>>- second, not really the techie stuff but: because you can DISPLAY (open

>>>the page) from the Printbox, and not just PRINT, the thing should be

>>>called something like Prints/Clippings (box), or something like that.

>>>      

>>>

>I don't mind what you call it really. The session in which the stuff is

>stored is limited, so it's no good for storing stuff longer term, so I

>wouldn't call it a 'clippings box' because to me that suggests it lasts

>a bit longer. Maybe that's something that needs to be added though, I

>don't know.

>

>JP

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What's the lingo in the printshop business? I'm thinking of those places
like kinkos etc... anyone know? Kinda like a job tray or something....

Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:

>
> I'd say to call it the "printing basket" or the "printing cart", but
> not the "print cart"
>
> doug
>

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Hi Ondra

Hope the following helps.

Here is the index.php file as I have it:

> # include trailing slash. comment line out to use default
> define('PB_SMARTY_DIR','c:/cygwin/var/www/pye2.dyndns.org/include/smarty-2-6-6/');]

This is your smarty code location

>
> # include trailing slash. comment line out to use default
> define('PB_TEMPLATE_DIR',
> 'c:/cygwin/var/www/pye2.dyndns.org/html/printbox/smartytemplates/');

This is the TEMPLATE_DIR for Smarty - it's where all the printbox
templates need to be residing.

>
> # include trailing slash. comment line out to use default
> define('PB_COMPILE_DIR',
> 'c:/cygwin/var/www/pye2.dyndns.org/html/printbox/smartytemplates_c/');

This is the COMPILE_DIR where compiled templates must be stored (needs
to be writable)

>
> # allow printbox to print remote documents
> define('PB_PRINT_REMOTE_DOCUMENTS',1);
>
> # allow use of 'addEdition'
> define('PB_ADD_EDITION',1);
>
> #use 'addEdition' when creating a new printbox
> define('PB_ALWAYS_ADD_EDITION',1);
>
> # use the following location for MAGPIE, if there is no MAGPIE_DIR.
> Add a TRAILING SLASH
> define('PB_MAGPIE_DIR','magpierss-0.7/');

This is where you need to install MAGPIE on your system, if you haven't
installed it anywhere else.

>
> # where is the RSS document list located/
> define('PB_RSS_URL','http://news.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_uk_edition/front_page/rss091.xml');

That's just a URL where your RSS feed is available. You can
alternatively code up some changes to the printboxinterface class.

Ondra Koutek wrote:

>Question: in index.php I commented smarty config (we have it in include path),
>but there are 2 more directories below, that are not described in Readme.txt
>and evidently are connected to your local installation. Shall I change them
>according to our website?
>Ondra
>
>On Tuesday 14 of December 2004 15:18, John Pye wrote:
>
>
>>What's the lingo in the printshop business? I'm thinking of those places
>>like kinkos etc... anyone know? Kinda like a job tray or something....
>>
>>Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'd say to call it the "printing basket" or the "printing cart", but
>>>not the "print cart"
>>>
>>>doug
>>>
>>>
>
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I tried to install magpierss and it does not work on our server.
1) FreeBSD changed port structure and I am unable to upgradeports unless
upgrading to 5.3 version.
2) 5.3 version needs specially patched Campsite (2.1.6rc1), versions below are
not working. However we are using 2.5 in TOL, and it needs to upgrade CS
first.
3) Upgrade of FreeBSD 5.2.1 to 5.3 needs to recompile all installed packages.

Due to these reasons it worth to be conservative with TOL site for now.
I vote for printbox to be aviable as separate module, or let me know how to
install printbox without makpierss.

Ondra

On Thursday 16 of December 2004 15:43, Ondra Koutek wrote:
> We do not have magpierss on our system and it is not in ports. Do we need
> to install that?
> Ondra
>
> On Thursday 16 of December 2004 14:50, John Pye wrote:
> > Hi Ondra
> >
> > Hope the following helps.
> >
> > Here is the index.php file as I have it:
> > > # include trailing slash. comment line out to use default
> > > define('PB_SMARTY_DIR','c:/cygwin/var/www/pye2.dyndns.org/include/smart
> > >y- 2-6-6/');]
> >
> > This is your smarty code location
> >
> > > # include trailing slash. comment line out to use default
> > > define('PB_TEMPLATE_DIR',
> > > 'c:/cygwin/var/www/pye2.dyndns.org/html/printbox/smartytemplates/');
> >
> > This is the TEMPLATE_DIR for Smarty - it's where all the printbox
> > templates need to be residing.
> >
> > > # include trailing slash. comment line out to use default
> > > define('PB_COMPILE_DIR',
> > > 'c:/cygwin/var/www/pye2.dyndns.org/html/printbox/smartytemplates_c/');
> >
> > This is the COMPILE_DIR where compiled templates must be stored (needs
> > to be writable)
> >
> > > # allow printbox to print remote documents
> > > define('PB_PRINT_REMOTE_DOCUMENTS',1);
> > >
> > > # allow use of 'addEdition'
> > > define('PB_ADD_EDITION',1);
> > >
> > > #use 'addEdition' when creating a new printbox
> > > define('PB_ALWAYS_ADD_EDITION',1);
> > >
> > > # use the following location for MAGPIE, if there is no MAGPIE_DIR.
> > > Add a TRAILING SLASH
> > > define('PB_MAGPIE_DIR','magpierss-0.7/');
> >
> > This is where you need to install MAGPIE on your system, if you haven't
> > installed it anywhere else.
> >
> > > # where is the RSS document list located/
> > > define('PB_RSS_URL','http://news.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_uk_edition/fr
> > >on t_page/rss091.xml');
> >
> > That's just a URL where your RSS feed is available. You can
> > alternatively code up some changes to the printboxinterface class.
> >
> > Ondra Koutek wrote:
> > >Question: in index.php I commented smarty config (we have it in include
> > > path), but there are 2 more directories below, that are not described
> > > in Readme.txt and evidently are connected to your local installation.
> > > Shall I change them according to our website?
> > >Ondra
> > >
> > >On Tuesday 14 of December 2004 15:18, John Pye wrote:
> > >>What's the lingo in the printshop business? I'm thinking of those
> > >> places like kinkos etc... anyone know? Kinda like a job tray or
> > >> something....
> > >>
> > >>Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> > >>>I'd say to call it the "printing basket" or the "printing cart", but
> > >>>not the "print cart"
> > >>>
> > >>>doug

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Thanks John and Ondra,

I just couldn't figure out how to configure the thing so it works with
campsite directly, rather than with RSS feed.

Can you give us some hints?

Thanks in advance,
Braja

Ondra Koutek wrote:
>
> I tried to install magpierss and it does not work on our server.
> 1) FreeBSD changed port structure and I am unable to upgradeports unless
> upgrading to 5.3 version.
> 2) 5.3 version needs specially patched Campsite (2.1.6rc1), versions below are
> not working. However we are using 2.5 in TOL, and it needs to upgrade CS
> first.
> 3) Upgrade of FreeBSD 5.2.1 to 5.3 needs to recompile all installed packages.
>
> Due to these reasons it worth to be conservative with TOL site for now.
> I vote for printbox to be aviable as separate module, or let me know how to
> install printbox without makpierss.
>
> Ondra
>
> On Thursday 16 of December 2004 15:43, Ondra Koutek wrote:
> > We do not have magpierss on our system and it is not in ports. Do we need
> > to install that?
> > Ondra
> >
> > On Thursday 16 of December 2004 14:50, John Pye wrote:
> > > Hi Ondra
> > >
> > > Hope the following helps.
> > >
> > > Here is the index.php file as I have it:
> > > > # include trailing slash. comment line out to use default
> > > > define('PB_SMARTY_DIR','c:/cygwin/var/www/pye2.dyndns.org/include/smart
> > > >y- 2-6-6/');]
> > >
> > > This is your smarty code location
> > >
> > > > # include trailing slash. comment line out to use default
> > > > define('PB_TEMPLATE_DIR',
> > > > 'c:/cygwin/var/www/pye2.dyndns.org/html/printbox/smartytemplates/');
> > >
> > > This is the TEMPLATE_DIR for Smarty - it's where all the printbox
> > > templates need to be residing.
> > >
> > > > # include trailing slash. comment line out to use default
> > > > define('PB_COMPILE_DIR',
> > > > 'c:/cygwin/var/www/pye2.dyndns.org/html/printbox/smartytemplates_c/');
> > >
> > > This is the COMPILE_DIR where compiled templates must be stored (needs
> > > to be writable)
> > >
> > > > # allow printbox to print remote documents
> > > > define('PB_PRINT_REMOTE_DOCUMENTS',1);
> > > >
> > > > # allow use of 'addEdition'
> > > > define('PB_ADD_EDITION',1);
> > > >
> > > > #use 'addEdition' when creating a new printbox
> > > > define('PB_ALWAYS_ADD_EDITION',1);
> > > >
> > > > # use the following location for MAGPIE, if there is no MAGPIE_DIR.
> > > > Add a TRAILING SLASH
> > > > define('PB_MAGPIE_DIR','magpierss-0.7/');
> > >
> > > This is where you need to install MAGPIE on your system, if you haven't
> > > installed it anywhere else.
> > >
> > > > # where is the RSS document list located/
> > > > define('PB_RSS_URL','http://news.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_uk_edition/fr
> > > >on t_page/rss091.xml');
> > >
> > > That's just a URL where your RSS feed is available. You can
> > > alternatively code up some changes to the printboxinterface class.
> > >
> > > Ondra Koutek wrote:
> > > >Question: in index.php I commented smarty config (we have it in include
> > > > path), but there are 2 more directories below, that are not described
> > > > in Readme.txt and evidently are connected to your local installation.
> > > > Shall I change them according to our website?
> > > >Ondra
> > > >
> > > >On Tuesday 14 of December 2004 15:18, John Pye wrote:
> > > >>What's the lingo in the printshop business? I'm thinking of those
> > > >> places like kinkos etc... anyone know? Kinda like a job tray or
> > > >> something....
> > > >>
> > > >>Douglas.Arellanes@mdlf.org wrote:
> > > >>>I'd say to call it the "printing basket" or the "printing cart", but
> > > >>>not the "print cart"
> > > >>>
> > > >>>doug

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