[campsite-support] root access
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    Am I understanding that Campsite will not install or run unless we have root access?

    We have both dedicated and shared servers and niether of our hosting companies will give us root access.

    Is there any other option with installing Campsite?

    Thanks,

    chuck evans
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    Hi Chuck,

    You need root access to a Linux or FreeBSD machine to install Campsite.
    Once you install it, there is no need to have root access. So if your
    friendly provider gives it to you temporarily, you are in business.

    What somewhat puzzles me is how you can have dedicated servers without
    root access? I thought those were by definition servers with full root
    access?

    Otherwise, we have some professional Campsite hosters among our community
    and they are on this list.

    Best regards,

    Sava





    chuck@chuckevansgolf.com
    12/19/06 11:55 PM
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    To: campsite-support@campware.org
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    Subject: [campsite-support] root access


    Am I understanding that Campsite will not install or run unless we have
    root access?

    We have both dedicated and shared servers and niether of our hosting
    companies will give us root access.

    Is there any other option with installing Campsite?

    Thanks,

    chuck evans
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    Sava,

    I saw on the Campsite - site - that there was an option for
    non-root access. We've been trying now for weeks to test
    Campsite and to find a hosting company that we can use for the
    testing and have had no luck!

    We really think that Campsite is what we've spent two years
    searching for but until we can fully test we can't be sure.

    Thanks,

    chuck

    >
    > Hi Chuck,
    >
    > You need root access to a Linux or FreeBSD machine to install
    > Campsite. Once you install it, there is no need to have root
    > access. So if your friendly provider gives it to you
    > temporarily, you are in business.
    >
    > What somewhat puzzles me is how you can have dedicated servers
    > without root access? I thought those were by definition servers with full root access?
    >
    > Otherwise, we have some professional Campsite hosters among
    > our community and they are on this list.
    >
    > Best regards,
    >
    > Sava
    >
    >
    >
    > chuck@chuckevansgolf.com
    > 12/19/06 11:55 PM
    > Please respond to campsite-support
    >
    >
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    Chuck,

    Out of curiosity, have you tried our demo
    (http://campsite-demo.campware.org/admin)?

    Other than that, wait for the hosters to wake up and see if they can offer
    you some testing deal (they are based in Prague and Amman, respectively).

    The nonroot access has been tried, but as far as I can remember, Mugur,
    the chief developer was warning against it (read: it was a hard thing with
    uncertain success). And BTW, we are in the process of rewriting the
    Campsite parser into php, so you could host it wherever. Unfortunately,
    other demands on the development team have pushed this all the way to
    February.

    Best,

    Sava









    Chuck Evans
    12/20/06 04:16 AM
    Please respond to campsite-support


    To: "sava.tatic@mdlf.org"
    cc:
    Subject: Re[2]: [campsite-support] root access


    Sava,

    I saw on the Campsite - site - that there was an option for
    non-root access. We've been trying now for weeks to test
    Campsite and to find a hosting company that we can use for the
    testing and have had no luck!

    We really think that Campsite is what we've spent two years
    searching for but until we can fully test we can't be sure.

    Thanks,

    chuck

    >
    > Hi Chuck,
    >
    > You need root access to a Linux or FreeBSD machine to install
    > Campsite. Once you install it, there is no need to have root
    > access. So if your friendly provider gives it to you
    > temporarily, you are in business.
    >
    > What somewhat puzzles me is how you can have dedicated servers
    > without root access? I thought those were by definition servers with
    full root access?
    >
    > Otherwise, we have some professional Campsite hosters among
    > our community and they are on this list.
    >
    > Best regards,
    >
    > Sava
    >
    >
    >
    > chuck@chuckevansgolf.com
    > 12/19/06 11:55 PM
    > Please respond to campsite-support
    >
    >
    > To: campsite-support@campware.org
    > cc:
    > Subject: [campsite-support] root access
    >
    >
    > Am I understanding that Campsite will not install or run unless we have
    root access?
    >
    > We have both dedicated and shared servers and niether of our
    > hosting companies will give us root access.
    >
    > Is there any other option with installing Campsite?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > chuck evans
    >
    >
    >

    Chuck Evans,
    Executive Director of Instruction
    www.MedicusGolfInstitute.com
    Direct Line: 1.480.862.6544
    Reservations: 1.800.732.4995
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    Sava,

    Yes we've tried the demo but really want to see how easy it will
    be to create our own templates, and to be frank the demo isn't
    fully featured - there are limitations on it.

    I looked at all of the hosters you have on the site - I think
    there are 5 - and none of their plans were suitable.

    February huh? I really hate to wait that long we'd like to get
    this off the ground by the first of the year but we've waited two
    years so I guess another couple of months aren't going to kill
    us!

    I just wish there was a way to really get into Campsite and give
    it a thorough test.

    Thanks for your responses,

    chuck

    >
    > Chuck,
    >
    > Out of curiosity, have you tried our demo
    > (http://campsite-demo.campware.org/admin)?
    >
    > Other than that, wait for the hosters to wake up and see if
    > they can offer you some testing deal (they are based in Prague and Amman, respectively).
    >
    > The nonroot access has been tried, but as far as I can
    > remember, Mugur, the chief developer was warning against it
    > (read: it was a hard thing with uncertain success). And BTW, we
    > are in the process of rewriting the Campsite parser into php,
    > so you could host it wherever. Unfortunately, other demands on
    > the development team have pushed this all the way to February.
    >
    > Best,
    >
    > Sava
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Chuck Evans
    > 12/20/06 04:16 AM
    > Please respond to campsite-support
    >
    >
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    Hello all,

    as for campsite, there is an option to install campsite without root
    access. But you need to have at least shell access.
    However the best results we have if the installing person has root
    access to install all dependencies and to install campsite to proper
    folders.
    Also thanks to need of Apache virtual host enabled it is way simpler to
    install it on empty box than on hosting environment powered by cpanel.

    As for template design, it is very simple, but you usually spend huge
    time by tweaking the design and publication structure. therefore the
    main process is not a thing you will do in one day, even though you can.
    Therefore my advice is if you want to try, to try install campsite
    locally on some testing PC and try it there.

    Ondra

    chuck@chuckevansgolf.com píše v út 19. 12. 2006 v 23:55 +0100:
    > Am I understanding that Campsite will not install or run unless we have root access?
    >
    > We have both dedicated and shared servers and niether of our hosting companies will give us root access.
    >
    > Is there any other option with installing Campsite?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > chuck evans
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