We're in big time need to replace our old Campcaster 1.2 broadcast
system and are currently testing Airtime 1.8.2 running on Ubuntu lucid
- 10.04.2 LTS. As I've mentioned, our setup is such that the broadcast
PC is inside of a shack by the broadcast tower and accessing it
requires some planning so I've got keep this in mind when thinking of
upgrades. So far, 1.8.2 is working really well and we're shooting to
have 2+ more weeks of testing before swapping out the system, assuming
we don't run into any major problems (none so far).
1. I'm curious what has come of no "on air" / liquidsoap problem
myself and others are (were?) having. I did the update to 1.8.2 and I
believe I still ran into this issue and manually replaced the
liquidsoap binary with the one I built from the SVN (git? can't
remember) branch. I don't mind doing this but I read that upcoming
versions will rely on a newer version of liquidsoap to support new
features. My concern is that I'd like to prevent the possibility of us
getting "silence" during our broadcast time if I'm not able to
complete a future update for whatever reason.
2. I'm also curious what the timeline is for these releases. I thought
someone mentioned it on the forums but my searches are not finding it.
We are desperate to replace 1.8.2 and, while I would prefer to wait
for 1.9 as having human-readable file storage is something I'd prefer
to have, I don't think we can hold off much longer.
3. Finally, I was wondering if something could be done about cosmetic
issues. I'm noticing the following:
- Is it possible to configure what metadata is shown on the media
browser's columns? For our needs, Track # is not very useful. We'd
prefer to see Genre and possibly Year.
- Is it possible to save settings for the pulldowns? The "Show n
entries" pulldown always resets to 10 after browsing away. And the
weekly calendar view always resets to 30-minute intervals. I would
like for these to remember their settings.
- This might be hard to explain but when building a playlist, it seems
the drag & droppable area is smaller than it appears. That is, I can
drag and drop files into the playlist but, as the list grows, I was
initially dragging them to the bottom where it seemed that it didn't
work. Here's a screencast showing what I mean when I try to drag the
6th file:
From the way the inlined frame appears when the 6th file is
recognized, it looks like the area is smaller than one initially
thinks. Perhaps, an outline can be added to the frame?
That's all I can think of for now. Thank you again for all your
effort. Everyone at WGOT-LP is eternally grateful to you all.
> **
> 1. I'm curious what has come of no "on air" / liquidsoap problem
> myself and others are (were?) having. I did the update to 1.8.2 and I
> believe I still ran into this issue and manually replaced the
> liquidsoap binary with the one I built from the SVN (git? can't
> remember) branch. I don't mind doing this but I read that upcoming
> versions will rely on a newer version of liquidsoap to support new
> features. My concern is that I'd like to prevent the possibility of us
> getting "silence" during our broadcast time if I'm not able to
> complete a future update for whatever reason.
>
Hi Ed -
All the problems that I can remember with the ON AIR light were from
incorrect configurations. We've done a lot of work to prevent
misconfiguration and we I havent heard of this happening recently.
2. I'm also curious what the timeline is for these releases. I thought
> someone mentioned it on the forums but my searches are not finding it.
> We are desperate to replace 1.8.2 and, while I would prefer to wait
> for 1.9 as having human-readable file storage is something I'd prefer
> to have, I don't think we can hold off much longer.
>
1.9.0 will be out in approximately 3 weeks. Every release comes with
upgrade scripts that will take you to the next version.
> - Is it possible to configure what metadata is shown on the media
> browser's columns? For our needs, Track # is not very useful. We'd
> prefer to see Genre and possibly Year.
>
Please vote on those issues if they are important for you.
> - Is it possible to save settings for the pulldowns? The "Show n
> entries" pulldown always resets to 10 after browsing away. And the
> weekly calendar view always resets to 30-minute intervals. I would
> like for these to remember their settings.
>
- This might be hard to explain but when building a playlist, it seems
> the drag & droppable area is smaller than it appears. That is, I can
> drag and drop files into the playlist but, as the list grows, I was
> initially dragging them to the bottom where it seemed that it didn't
> work. Here's a screencast showing what I mean when I try to drag the
> 6th file:
>
> **
> All the problems that I can remember with the ON AIR light were from
> incorrect configurations. We've done a lot of work to prevent
> misconfiguration and we I havent heard of this happening recently.
>
Hi Paul,
I'll try restoring the original liquidsoap tonight to see what happens and
will let you know.
> 1.9.0 will be out in approximately 3 weeks. Every release comes with
> upgrade scripts that will take you to the next version.
>
>
Thank you. We're also very much looking forward to some of the other future
features such as remote-recording so I definitely want to keep up with
upcoming releases.
Beta2 will be out next week, and we could use all the help we can get to iron out any issues. This beta also has updated Liquidsoap binaries, so hopefully things will be working for you right out of the box
On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Martin Konecny wrote:
> Since you are interested in 1.9.0, why not try out beta1?
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/airtime/files/1.9.0/1.9.0%20 Beta%20Releases/
>
> Beta2 will be out next week, and we could use all the help we can get to iron out any issues. This beta also has updated Liquidsoap binaries, so hopefully things will be working for you right out of the box
Hi Martin,
I would like to but I'm prepping this machine for installation at the tower and already have things set up to use the apt packages. Our 3 schedulers are testing playlists on and off so I'd prefer to keep downtime to a minimum now.
Could you tell me:
1. To switch from the 1.8.2 apt install to this beta, would I have to do a remove of the apt package?
2. What happens with the DB if I remove it? Does it delete the contents in postgresql?
3. How will airtime handle the update of the stor directory? Will it update the current files or leave those alone and proceed only with new uploads?
I was currently trying to work around the masked filenames in stor by maintaining our own directory and using import with linked mode but perhaps I should abandon that plan and count on the changes in 1.9. BTW, we don't upload from the airtime interface; we use Dropbox and the PC handles the importing of files.
My main issue is we're set to install the PC on the 10th of July and I would prefer not to have to arrange for a follow up visit to oversee an update.
> **
> On Jun 23, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Martin Konecny wrote:
> > Since you are interested in 1.9.0, why not try out beta1?
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/airtime/files/1.9.0/1.9.0%20 Beta%20Releases/
> >
> > Beta2 will be out next week, and we could use all the help we can get to
> iron out any issues. This beta also has updated Liquidsoap binaries, so
> hopefully things will be working for you right out of the box
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> I would like to but I'm prepping this machine for installation at the tower
> and already have things set up to use the apt packages. Our 3 schedulers are
> testing playlists on and off so I'd prefer to keep downtime to a minimum
> now.
>
> Could you tell me:
>
> 1. To switch from the 1.8.2 apt install to this beta, would I have to do a
> remove of the apt package?
>
You should test out 1.9.0 on a separate machine. Do not try to test it on
the same machine as production.
> 2. What happens with the DB if I remove it? Does it delete the contents in
> postgresql?
>
Yes.
> 3. How will airtime handle the update of the stor directory? Will it
> update the current files or leave those alone and proceed only with new
> uploads?
>
When our upgrade scripts are ready, they will automatically upgrade your
"stor" directory to the new structure.